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Old 07-12-2024, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Hmm, so no 1000's at all?

And the Lion Air deal in the past doesn't remedy the need for more metal now. If 7m 8M or NG airframes of any size were available sooner that seems like it would help a lot. Not a massive order, but a small one. We're already stafed for them which means free pilot labor! Lol, kind of anyway.
I don't really think we need many more planes right this moment. Yields are softening so tightening up supply seems smart. I think these delivery delays seem to be timed perfectly.
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Old 07-12-2024, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Already did that with the gently pre-owned lion air deal. 30ish airframes if memory serves.

BTW, WB options associated with the 20 A350-1000 deal show as 10 A350-900s and 10 A330-900NEOs on the 10-Q.
Anecdotally I've heard that's only on paper, and the actual options haven't been solidified yet. I could be wrong, but I've heard it mentioned.
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Old 07-12-2024, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Hmm, so no 1000's at all?

And the Lion Air deal in the past doesn't remedy the need for more metal now. If 7m 8M or NG airframes of any size were available sooner that seems like it would help a lot. Not a massive order, but a small one. We're already stafed for them which means free pilot labor! Lol, kind of anyway.
I agree but I think we already gobbled up any availibility. Is boeing delivering NGs still?
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Old 07-12-2024, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I agree but I think we already gobbled up any availibility. Is boeing delivering NGs still?
I'm not sure. Even if they're not, pehaps they could spool it back up on just one line since the Neo/Max/220 etc engine issues are so significant. But maybe they destroyed the tooling like the 75? Lol who knows.
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Old 07-12-2024, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
I don't really think we need many more planes right this moment. Yields are softening so tightening up supply seems smart. I think these delivery delays seem to be timed perfectly.
Where are yields softening? We had a very good quarter. Nothing to cry about for sure. Remember the MAX and NEO are a bit of growth, but mostly to replace 75s and the old 320s. We need the new metal, like yesterday. Unfortunately it looks like MAX won't be around until late '26 if not further right. NEO, well, we've discussed that plenty already. Don't forget even if certified, the FAA has placed a quasi "production cap" on MAX (I think something around 30ish Maxes a month) as a means to force Boeing to be more "quality" oriented. Airbus is not immune from production and delivery issues either (see previous discussions on supply chain woes). Like I said, we need the new metal like yesterday.
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Old 07-12-2024, 02:26 PM
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Can someone smarter than me please explain "look to reduce backfills"? Does this mean people looking to get into one of the mentioned categories will likely not be able to despite vacancies being created by pilots in these categories bidding onto something else? And does this have any effect on pilots within say the 7ER category wanting to try moving between ER bases?
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Old 07-12-2024, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker
I was talking to some ATL 73N guys in the van a few weeks ago, and they were relating how overstaffed they were. Sounds like lots of blue days and no GS.
It's real and it's spectacular.
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Old 07-12-2024, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by uofWaPilot
Can someone smarter than me please explain "look to reduce backfills"? Does this mean people looking to get into one of the mentioned categories will likely not be able to despite vacancies being created by pilots in these categories bidding onto something else? And does this have any effect on pilots within say the 7ER category wanting to try moving between ER bases?
Reducing backfills means that when someone bids out, they choose not to fill the created vacancy.
Since everything is seniority based, yes, that would include base swaps.
But mostly this seems to be happening on the CA side.
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Old 07-12-2024, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
It's real and it's spectacular.
Indeed, including August, ATL73NB hasn't seen an ALV above 75:30 since April and only once above 80 this calendar year. Summer has. been. glorious.
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Old 07-12-2024, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
Indeed, including August, ATL73NB hasn't seen an ALV above 75:30 since April and only once above 80 this calendar year. Summer has. been. glorious.
Quick look through the bid packages, many of the NB fleets have had much lower ALVs throughout the summer. So awesome.
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