CBreezy

Urinating or defecating on the flight deck is not sanitary. You can literally consume breast milk. They are not the same.

It was an example of an urgent situation that might require you to expose yourself. Expressing breast milk is not sexual and anyone who has had a spouse who helped their spouse breast feed their child can tell you. It is the least sexual thing you can do. If you're immature or a predator, you turn what is a life giving function into something to fantasize about

CX500T

Have a SI that says otherwise.

LAXtoDEN

Well unfortunately we only get to read one side of the story. Yeah I’d agree most of this is just weird acts, but I’ve been around enough women in the flight deck and overnights for a few drinks to know some are WAY MORE open about things than they should be compared to men. In fact I could think of a few examples where I could have easily filed a report.

Some of these claims makes me wonder if she was leading them on. The finger joke is extremely unprofessional from here side of the story. But what if SHE was the one who pointed out the shirt first and laughed and made her fellow crew member think it was all in good fun, then boom, reported.

OOfff

you need to insert a cath on the airplane?

CBreezy

Fine. If you say so. And if you had a situation where it fell out and you were imminently going to cause a situation, you would be well within your rights to say "hey, my cath fell out of my bag is open. I need to take off my pants to fix it. Would you mind looking away for a second," it should be 100% acceptable.

Gunfighter

A blanket over the shoulder may have been worth considering. Even so, a lack of modesty while performing an essential function does not excuse the alleged inappropriate response. The story reads like a slow motion train wreck.

CX500T

If something flares, and a long enough leg, yes, and my SI requires I carry the required equipment. It's fun with TSA trying to take it on randoms.

CBreezy

Are we assuming she didn't try that? Either way, at some point, you have to be partially topless until you're set up

Stratoliner

Imposing your bodily functions on other people is not polite or professional. I don't see why this is so hard. It would rightly make many men uncomfortable to walk in on that, or have to sit through it. Having no regard for your own privacy doesn't mean other people aren't made uncomfortable by it. If it is so essential that you have to forgo decent regard for people you work with or a respect for your professional situation, then you're in the wrong place.

If a man did the catheter thing I brought up, I doubt he'd get reported. You'd poke fun at him for doing that, but not get the chief pilot involved and jeopardize his livelihood on a basis of him being weird. He'd deserve to get made fun of for acting unprofessional/inappropriate. Maybe it makes him change what he does, or at least it's a decent punishment that doesn't ruin his life. This isn't a woman problem. Only a handful of pilots cause most of the trouble for management, and she was probably one of them. Had nothing to do with being a woman. And if you look at the substack author who wrote her story, she's also trying to make a story out of the FO who ripped the tail off the AA587 Airbus A300 over 20 years ago. Really stretching with little info to back it up.

CBreezy

If you're not comfortable with a woman on the flight deck, you're free to remove yourself.