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06-27-2023, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by konabear

Maybe we can hijack this thread and make it about the AE.

The AE thread is about anything but, so why not!

BTW it’s out via back door.

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06-27-2023, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NuGuy

Agreed. If they wait it goes out at triple pay and with a 100% capture. “Well they’ll just violate it”. Violating a grievance settlement agreement is pretty serious. “More serious than violating the contract?”. In some ways, yes.

Just follow ALPA guidance. Put in blanket greens with auto ack yes, auto accept no, and turn your ringer off if you don’t want a call at night. If only a few do it, it just screws the commuter until he can’t make it. If everyone does it, it negates this BS ‘deal’ they made.

06-27-2023, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish

Except that isn't what the ALPA guidance says. Go read it again.

06-27-2023, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beernutt

trying to prove to the membership that they’re really earning that FPL.

Democracy’s a b1tch, innit.

you do realize that reps aren’t on full time FPL, and wrote it on their own time, right?

Democracy is a b1tch, all right. Especially when bad actors sow disinformation like beernutt. Innit.

06-27-2023, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Puddytatt

Except that isn't what the ALPA guidance says. Go read it again.

ok, I add libbed a bit…. Ok all but 6 words of my post. Readers can figure out which 6!

06-27-2023, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

I’ve already gotten a couple of 100 size batches blasted out with well under 2 hours to report and not gotten an IA call, so it seems like they are attempting to get away from IAs.

Here is a question. How many pilots in any particular seat are not working each day? Rough beer napkin based on 73 Atl. 400 in catagory. Work approx 15 days per month. So figure it starts at 200 per day are working. Add in extra pickups, simulators, union work, sick, whatever. I’m guessing there are 100-150 not working on any given day. So a 100 batch size probably covers all the slips plus some IA’s? So we can expect to get calls every day we are not working? Huh. That sux.

06-27-2023, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish

At least for now it seems the schedulers are using some discretion for farther out trips. I've seen some batch size of 10 for stuff 4-5 hours out, and even a batch size of 1 for a trip 2 days out. So they are not just maxing it out every single time. One thing I've noticed is that I am getting waaaaay more OOBGS calls now. Many are pretty close in so I'm assuming they blasted the IB GS crowd and rapidly jumped to OOB when there were no takers. In the past it would take so long to do the in-base people that it would rarely get to OOB before it went to RR/IA/cancel.

06-27-2023, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish

ok, I add libbed a bit…. Ok all but 6 words of my post. Readers can figure out which 6!

You got auto-accept and auto-acknowledge backwards so I'd say a little more than "ad libbed."

Enjoy your phone ringing all night for rotations you aren't #1 for.

06-27-2023, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy

you do realize that reps aren’t on full time FPL, and wrote it on their own time, right?

Democracy is a b1tch, all right. Especially when bad actors sow disinformation like beernutt. Innit.

No, I didn’t realize that ‘they wrote it on their own time’. That almost makes it worse. What are we paying a certain LEC vice chairman 2 weeks of FPL every month for 6 months to do, if not at least bang out some inflammatory noise? What do you consider full time FPL? 30 days of availability to fly in the past 6 months sounds awfully close to full time FPL to me.

And the release. Did you read it? Talk about disinformation. Rhetoric, grandstanding, conjecture, divisiveness, finger pointing. Then, almost unbelievably, it was closed with ‘In Unity’.

Finally, the second paragraph in your post is a non sequitur. Makes no sense.

06-27-2023, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages

Interesting take. One could also interpret this as the "always say yes" councils are clearly earning that FPL.

"Don't just do something ... stand there."

A5S

Nobody’s ‘clearly’ doing anything in all this. That’s a lot of the problem. No clarity.