Tanker1497

Any trip in open time with less than 8 hours to sign in can be covered this way. Stick it to our group, they could care less about the pilot making double pay for the trip. Using both GS and IA coverage inside of 8 hours makes covering the trip that much easier. We will see how’s things unfold, will be interesting to watch.

tennisguru

I’ve already gotten a couple of 100 size batches blasted out with well under 2 hours to report and not gotten an IA call, so it seems like they are attempting to get away from IAs.

Puddytatt

Were you actually curious, or was this a veiled "are you just complaining online or did you do something about it" comment?

Tanker1497

Same here for two open trips. I hope they cover them with ARCOS when able.

NuGuy

Agreed. If they wait it goes out at triple pay and with a 100% capture. “Well they’ll just violate it”. Violating a grievance settlement agreement is pretty serious. “More serious than violating the contract?”. In some ways, yes.

Herkflyr

I'm not sure why you are so angry about OOBWS--you've posted several times how you feel about it. I've never flown one, and as a non-commuter likely never will even submit a request to fly one. But it is a long-established step in the contractual coverage ladder. I don't see an OOBWS "problem" any more than I see an in base WS "problem."

The company's blatant overuse of 23.M.7 is a problem. I have long contended that the prior ARCOS batch size limits were far too restrictive (how did the company ever even agree to them in the first place?) and all the associated issues did indeed need to be addressed--for a price. We had some leverage there, and I don't think that we the union really got a whole lot out of this. This is not about mindlessly adhering to the status quo when it was clearly broken. I just think that we could have given the company the relief that we did, but securing more and better contractual improvements as part of that process.

konabear

Maybe we can hijack this thread and make it about the AE.

beernutt

The ‘just say no’ councils got outvoted and now they’re waving their arms and stomping their feet, foaming at the mouth trying to prove to the membership that they’re really earning that FPL.

Democracy’s a b1tch, innit.

Hotel Kilo

But wait, I brought a maddog firefighting plane:

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/statu...fire-ha%2Fc%2F

I really enjoyed my years on the maddog.

All 5 Stages

Interesting take. One could also interpret this as the "always say yes" councils are clearly earning that FPL.

"Don't just do something ... stand there."

A5S