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06-28-2023, 09:50 AM
#101
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Hmmm, can they listen to simple phone calls? Scheduling called my FO this morning, on a blocked number, and asked if he could stay in the outstation and fly a leg later in the day. He's a lineholder on a WS, that just had a DH home and done. He said no and they said no and quickly hung up. Something worth reporting?
06-28-2023, 12:12 PM
#102
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Yes. ARCOS will contact you for the acknowledge window if successful. Even if the trip is <12 hrs to report. You can accept or decline. (If you decline it shows up in ARCOS Status as "Rejected".)
06-28-2023, 03:42 PM
#103
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06-28-2023, 04:59 PM
#104
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The 12hrs comes into play only if you Y - Auto Acknowledge. You won't be notified if >12hrs and you will be notified <12hrs. Either way, the trip is now on your line like it or not. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?
06-29-2023, 06:41 AM
#105
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You can decline at either step and not be on the hook for the trip. I've done it several times. In fact, if there are multiple trips in the batch, it will then call you a third time, for the "Accept" step on your second preference. Again, I've done it several times. I see no evidence any of the 'mechanization' of this has chanced with the recent developments.
06-29-2023, 07:12 AM
#106
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If I'm understanding your question correctly... There is still a "window" for both the Acknowledge step (the first call), and the Accept step, I think it's down to 12 minutes.
You can decline at either step and not be on the hook for the trip. I've done it several times. In fact, if there are multiple trips in the batch, it will then call you a third time, for the "Accept" step on your second preference. Again, I've done it several times. I see no evidence any of the 'mechanization' of this has chanced with the recent developments.
You can decline at either step and not be on the hook for the trip. I've done it several times. In fact, if there are multiple trips in the batch, it will then call you a third time, for the "Accept" step on your second preference. Again, I've done it several times. I see no evidence any of the 'mechanization' of this has chanced with the recent developments.
Step 1 - The offer window. If you decline your status is "declined". If you accept and are successful you are awarded the trip and your status is "awarded".
Step 2 - The acknowledge window. If you decline your status is "rejected". If you accept your status is "acknowledged".
Both steps have a response window showing the callout time available and inside or outside of response window.The trip is not on your line until it is acknowledged either with your response or an auto acknowledge response.
06-29-2023, 07:40 AM
#108
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If I'm understanding your question correctly... There is still a "window" for both the Acknowledge step (the first call), and the Accept step, I think it's down to 12 minutes.
You can decline at either step and not be on the hook for the trip. I've done it several times. In fact, if there are multiple trips in the batch, it will then call you a third time, for the "Accept" step on your second preference. Again, I've done it several times. I see no evidence any of the 'mechanization' of this has chanced with the recent developments.
You can decline at either step and not be on the hook for the trip. I've done it several times. In fact, if there are multiple trips in the batch, it will then call you a third time, for the "Accept" step on your second preference. Again, I've done it several times. I see no evidence any of the 'mechanization' of this has chanced with the recent developments.
If I'm understanding you correctly, if I put in auto acknowledge, and I'm called for 3 GS, ARCOS will call me for the my first preference. If I reject that one, it will call back for my 2nd preference? If I reject that it will call again with my 3rd preference? Is that right?
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06-29-2023, 08:04 AM
#109
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If I'm understanding you correctly, if I put in auto acknowledge, and I'm called for 3 GS, ARCOS will call me for the my first preference. If I reject that one, it will call back for my 2nd preference? If I reject that it will call again with my 3rd preference? Is that right?
06-29-2023, 08:27 AM
#110
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If I'm understanding you correctly, if I put in auto acknowledge, and I'm called for 3 GS, ARCOS will call me for the my first preference. If I reject that one, it will call back for my 2nd preference? If I reject that it will call again with my 3rd preference? Is that right?
*edited to clarify... If you have [B]Accepted ]/B] (the fist ARCOS step) rotations, when if calls you to "acknowledge" (the second ARCOS step) and you reject, it will call you back for your next accepted trip if you are first in line. If you Auto Acknowledge, you don't get the choice.
Last edited by FangsF15; 06-29-2023 at 08:42 AM.
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