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Old 05-02-2023, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
This doesn’t surprise me. I have heard from a reliable source that we cannot fill our May classes. We are out of pilot recruits. Not kidding.
The shortage has finally reached the majors.
only 1700 total apps on file as of a week or so ago. From a CPO returning from meetings in ATL
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Old 05-02-2023, 03:07 PM
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only 1700 total apps on file as of a week or so ago. From a CPO returning from meetings in ATL
With their plans of hiring that should be gone in under a year. What then?
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Old 05-02-2023, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by D0zingfordollar
With their plans of hiring that should be gone in under a year. What then?
More guys get their time teaching at the FBO or are about to retire/separate from the military
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Old 05-02-2023, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RunFast
only 1700 total apps on file as of a week or so ago. From a CPO returning from meetings in ATL
That’s crazy. What a change from recent times when all the majors had 10,000+ apps on file.
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Originally Posted by D0zingfordollar
With their plans of hiring that should be gone in under a year. What then?
And how many of those apps are qualified? How many do we want? How many don’t get hired somewhere else first? I bet maximum we on board 1000 of those. So what like 5 months in the pipeline?
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Originally Posted by D0zingfordollar
With their plans of hiring that should be gone in under a year. What then?
We’ve sent plenty of people packing with scores too low to offer employment or do-overs. Perhaps some of those folks get a call back?

If I were king for a day at Delta, I’d be preparing to offer employment to any active pilot already flying or with a job offer at a US major. Do it soon while our contract is exponentially better than the competition. All’s fair in love and hiring!
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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo
And how many of those apps are qualified? How many do we want? How many don’t get hired somewhere else first? I bet maximum we on board 1000 of those. So what like 5 months in the pipeline?
Far, far less than 1,000.

As for active applications from candidates that met the 1,000 hours of turbine, I’ll be that was less than a few hundred. Hence why they widened the aperture. They’ll burn through applicants this summer before we truly see if we get to the 1,500 hour CFIs etc.

Anyone at a regional or LCC has had the opportunity to jump ship if they wanted to. The 3 legacies alone will have hired around 15,000 pilots since 2021 by the time we reach the end of 2023. Anyone left at a regional is either feeling stuck because of having to repay a large bonus if they leave or simply isn’t interested.
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Originally Posted by TED74
We’ve sent plenty of people packing with scores too low to offer employment or do-overs. Perhaps some of those folks get a call back?

If I were king for a day at Delta, I’d be preparing to offer employment to any active pilot already flying or with a job offer at a US major. Do it soon while our contract is exponentially better than the competition. All’s fair in love and hiring!
I’ve heard it said many times… If Delta offered pay longevity many pilots from majors and LCCs would make the jump. Hiring will continue at the current rip for now and then likely settle some next year. Between now and then I think things will get interesting.
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I busted the assessment twice and didn't get another invite. I am willing to jump ship to DL from another legacy carrier as DL is my dream job, but I don't think this will be happening because of the assessment.
I failed the assessment the first time I took it. So I did more targeted practice and passed the second time. The AON assessment is dumb for pilots who have demonstrated thousands of hours and years of safe, professional flying ability. It's an unnecessary hurdle. If they want to ensure that they don't hire a pilot who will Germanwings one of their jets, keep the psych eval at interview day.

Do like American does: use the data to anticipate who might need extra sim training. The days of using the assessment as a pre-interview filter are coming to an end for Delta.
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Originally Posted by CAFB 04-12
I failed the assessment the first time I took it. So I did more targeted practice and passed the second time. The AON assessment is dumb for pilots who have demonstrated thousands of hours and years of safe, professional flying ability. It's an unnecessary hurdle. If they want to ensure that they don't hire a pilot who will Germanwings one of their jets, keep the psych eval at interview day.

Do like American does: use the data to anticipate who might need extra sim training. The days of using the assessment as a pre-interview filter are coming to an end for Delta.


I’m curious, does anyone know why airlines have gotten away from sim interviews?
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