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Old 05-02-2023, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I stopped reading right here, this is rich coming from you. Considering you are one of the kings of hyperbole, sarcasm, and trying to put down anyone that disagrees with you. And always an attack with ME? Again, real rich.
Dude, it's people like you who make this site unbearable. People are legitimately trying to find answers to questions and you throw in garbage that genuinely curious people, like me and many others, have to sift through to get answers. Maybe quit challenging people to start drama.
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Old 05-02-2023, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tfork
I'm genuinely curious how you say this with such confidence. What is your expertise in such matters? I have seen no data either way.
A while back I talked to someone who knows a few things. Said that more don’t pass the assessment than the old JKT, but the HR portion has a higher pass rate once they get to ATL. No evidence or data, just talking while on a trip.
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Old 05-02-2023, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
A while back I talked to someone who knows a few things. Said that more don’t pass the assessment than the old JKT, but the HR portion has a higher pass rate once they get to ATL. No evidence or data, just talking while on a trip.
Ok, but my reply was to Tropical.
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Old 05-02-2023, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by abnperry
Dude, it's people like you who make this site unbearable. People are legitimately trying to find answers to questions and you throw in garbage that genuinely curious people, like me and many others, have to sift through to get answers. Maybe quit challenging people to start drama.
Dude, I literally almost always answer questions and correct wrong info. I stay out of stuff I don’t know about. And yes the occasional quip. It’s a forum for crying out loud.
Tropical goes on his rants and raves about everything he finds unfair. I, yes sarcastically, came back with a response to figure out what the expectations he wanted. And another rant ensued.
Throw stones somewhere else. I was no where close to the one that “started” this.
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Old 05-02-2023, 09:11 AM
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Does this have any effect on the hundreds of Delta Connection pilots that are just as good, if not better, than all the PSA, ENV, GoJet, etc pilots that are just flat out blacklisted as candidates until flow or heavily metered. Years and thousands of numbers of seniority lost for guys who chose to fly Delta metal. (Rhetorical question / groveling)
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Old 05-02-2023, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Iregretnothing
I think Horizon still does. But it is 1000 hours of turbine time, which includes turboprops. It doesn’t specifically say turbojet.
Horizon retired the last of their Q400s in January, 11 months ahead of their originally scheduled plan when they announced they were once-again going single fleet.
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Old 05-02-2023, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tropical
I'm not sure this is true, but if it is, maybe they should keep the experience requirements where they are, but get rid of the stupid "assessment" with brain games and a Kobayashi Maru psych test at the end, and the antiquated shrink interview that sends great candidates who have multiple CJOs to a PARB purgatory because one person "had concerns" which probably have nothing to do with being a good airline pilot.

We are turning good pilots away for specious reasons, then scraping the bottom of the barrel for even more inexperienced pilots who may manage to squeak through the hoops just because of luck and paying for the right prep. It doesn't make any sense.
I've had two outstanding individuals on the jump seat recently who were given the TBNT after the initial assessment. The last one is now at American but really wanted to be here. He mentioned that American has similar tests but they are not a show stopper. They can still be invited for the interview and the results are added to the mix. Here, it seems, we don't even want to see you if you don't pass the initial stuff.
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Old 05-02-2023, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Maybe stop rejecting solid interviewees because of ridiculous psych bs first...
I busted the assessment twice and didn't get another invite. I am willing to jump ship to DL from another legacy carrier as DL is my dream job, but I don't think this will be happening because of the assessment.
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Old 05-02-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NiceMarmot
I busted the assessment twice and didn't get another invite. I am willing to jump ship to DL from another legacy carrier as DL is my dream job, but I don't think this will be happening because of the assessment.
maybe turn in another application?
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Old 05-02-2023, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by D0zingfordollar
Does this have any effect on the hundreds of Delta Connection pilots that are just as good, if not better, than all the PSA, ENV, GoJet, etc pilots that are just flat out blacklisted as candidates until flow or heavily metered. Years and thousands of numbers of seniority lost for guys who chose to fly Delta metal. (Rhetorical question / groveling)
I think in the long run it's hurting more than anything. More and more people are starting to realize that flying connection for your dream carrier does you more harm than good. Guys are either avoiding our connection carriers or leaving the instant anyone better calls.
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