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02-28-2023, 11:35 AM

busdriver32

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Aa to dal

Currently have about 1.5 yrs at AA, LGA based bidding 20% on international side currently on 737 FO, upgrade time is currently 2.5 years on 737 while widebody FO in NYC on 777 is currently more senior around 4-5 years, I have 2500 pilots below me, I am about 15% up the way of seniority list already.

Got DELTA CJO a couple days ago and thinking of making the jump. Age wise currently low-30's so I have a 30+ year career ahead of me hopefully and NY is home and where I want to be based. Looking for prospectives pros/cons of either staying at AA or leaving for Delta.

Appreciate it and if anyone made the jump from AA to Delta can PM me anytime thanks

02-28-2023, 11:55 AM

tennisguru

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Originally Posted by busdriver32

If you were at any other base other than NYC it'd be a much harder decision. You'll be on the backside of a wave here (although we still will have a steady stream of hiring), but a lot of that is irrelevant if you live near NYC since you'll get such a boost in relative seniority here. It seems like for the short- to mid- term you'd make more money here and enjoy better work rules/QOL. Maybe it's the same at AA in NY, but you can practically print money here if you live in NYC and are willing to work the system.

02-28-2023, 12:09 PM

El Peso

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I’m at AA not Delta but I’d say that if you want NYC then Delta hands down. Just look at how much bigger Delta is in NY than us. AA is relying on some goofy NEA code share to try and make NY work. Delta actually flies their own schedule and has a robust trans Atlantic operation there too. Just my two cents. If I had 30+ years and wanted to be at a NY airline, AA and the NEA wouldn’t be my choice.

02-28-2023, 12:13 PM

Baradium

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Contrary to what the doom and gloom types portray it our work rules, especially for reserves, aren't pretty good and getting better. Add in wanting NYC area and it seems like an easy choice from this side.... but I don't know what it's really like at American.

02-28-2023, 12:33 PM

Whoopsmybad

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Did you mean are pretty good?

02-28-2023, 12:44 PM

Hawaii50

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I don't know what it's like at American but I can say with confidence, living in NY and working for Delta would be like being a 7 year old and getting keys to the candy store. Good luck with the decision.

02-28-2023, 01:01 PM

ChazzMMichaels

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Perfect description. Best relative seniority in the system and will go up quickly, 7 categories to choose from, myriad ways to maximize pay and/or QOL. I’m a little jealous.

02-28-2023, 01:05 PM

FangsF15

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It’s been said before. Overall seniority isn’t what matters, it’s your seniority in your seat that counts. And NY is, and will reliably remain, the best seniority in the system.

Good Luck.

02-28-2023, 02:05 PM

clear4approach

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Go for it!! NY local here as well.

02-28-2023, 02:38 PM

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Milksheikh

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I think you kinda missed the boat at delta. Even in the next 10 years, let alone the last ten of your career, you’ll have vastly better seniority at AA due to the much greater retirement wave there. Add in the fact that delta has already hired over half their list since 2014 and it’s a no brainer to stay at AA.