Aa to dal
03-01-2023, 05:25 AM
#21
You scratched my anchor
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A little bit of a misconception. AA is building domestic while the money is coming. AA has a lot of 787’s coming. The plan is to build a good domestic feed then expand intl. With that said, I’d go to Delta. NYC opportunities, AA morale/culture is currently in the tank and the DL TA passing it seems like a no brainer. The only hesitation is that AA has an incredible amount of retirements starting this year for the next 8-10 years.
03-01-2023, 05:39 AM
#22
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A little bit of a misconception. AA is building domestic while the money is coming. AA has a lot of 787’s coming. The plan is to build a good domestic feed then expand intl. With that said, I’d go to Delta. NYC opportunities, AA morale/culture is currently in the tank and the DL TA passing it seems like a no brainer. The only hesitation is that AA has an incredible amount of retirements starting this year for the next 8-10 years.
We have 500 retirements per year and our school house is running at capacity. Sometimes i don’t know how they do it.
03-01-2023, 07:25 AM
#24
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also they really only have 4 total pay scales (2 CA and 2 FO) so probably not much bidding around, at DL 8 different pilot groups with what, 5 (?) different pay scales.
03-01-2023, 08:00 AM
#25
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our schoolhouse is so behind because we retired over 2000 pilots during Covid and we ran one single bid that generated 7,000 displacements. Had we taken a more measured approach (like AA did) we would not have the training capacity issues we have seen recently.
also they really only have 4 total pay scales (2 CA and 2 FO) so probably not much bidding around, at DL 8 different pilot groups with what, 5 (?) different pay scales.
also they really only have 4 total pay scales (2 CA and 2 FO) so probably not much bidding around, at DL 8 different pilot groups with what, 5 (?) different pay scales.
AA is retiring 1,000 + the early retirement + growth. That’s a lot of training events for X amount of years. I don’t think they will be able to grow as much/fast as DAL or UAL. Unless the recession kicks in and demands falls enough for them to catch up.
03-01-2023, 10:46 AM
#27
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You would be nuts to leave that if you're going to be living in base either way. Not only will you retire at a much better number, but your seniority will move more quickly as well.
03-01-2023, 11:05 AM
#28
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03-01-2023, 11:22 AM
#29
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someone hired today won’t hit #2000 til 2053, assuming the poster is 32 now that’s 2 years from retirement. Based off current trends they MIGHT get 4-5 years in the left seat of a WB at DL (most of which will be 75% RS or lower) vs probably north of a decade at AA.
03-01-2023, 01:28 PM
#30
Can’t find crew pickup
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Thats true and there’s a reason things go jr in nyc and it’s his advantage that he lives there. Obviously the true widebody prospects for capt are better at AA, and he’ll get there much quicker vs delta.
I’m just saying if I were in his shoes, I’d stay at AA where you’re already a year in vs getting in on the back end of the wave at delta.
I’m just saying if I were in his shoes, I’d stay at AA where you’re already a year in vs getting in on the back end of the wave at delta.
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