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Old 03-01-2023, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
I think I am on a fleet where it is active, and I don’t even use the html other than to open the file from email to do initial ACARS loading/tell FAs the flight time. Otherwise, I like the paper and prefer to keep it.
Planning to bid a Huff Daland and be based in MLU next AE, too.

The paper release, while antiquated, is the last leverage we have over gate agents. Gate agent doesn’t get it until everyone on the crew is happy. We should keep it for that reason alone.
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The Gate agent is required to check in with you before they close the door. Paper not needed. Brief the FA that the door stays open until you give the thumbs up.
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Old 03-01-2023, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
If I’m on a fleet where M+ is active, but I think it’s too much of a pain in the arse, can I still use the HTML via MiCrew for the time being?
yes. They will be running both systems in parallel for a little while until everyone is fully used to the new system. It will be months.
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Old 03-01-2023, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The Gate agent is required to check in with you before they close the door. Paper not needed. Brief the FA that the door stays open until you give the thumbs up.
that may be true, but you have to admit that me holding a physical piece of paper hostage is a more failsafe system.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
that may be true, but you have to admit that me holding a physical piece of paper hostage is a more failsafe system.
yes. But that hasn't stopped them from closing it in the past. I've witnessee several through the window exchanges.
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Old 03-01-2023, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The Gate agent is required to check in with you before they close the door. Paper not needed. Brief the FA that the door stays open until you give the thumbs up.
I watched an agent close the door a couple days ago with the captain in the terminal. 757. I was jumpseating and in lav. I came out of lav, noticed captain not in seat, then told flight attendants, and sat back and watched. We didn’t leave without him. Went from 10 early to barely on-time.
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Old 03-01-2023, 04:16 AM
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I watched an agent close the door a couple days ago with the captain in the terminal. 757. I was jumpseating and in lav. I came out of lav, noticed captain not in seat, then told flight attendants, and sat back and watched. We didn’t leave without him. Went from 10 early to barely on-time.
Right. The paper doesn't really do anything.
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Old 03-01-2023, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Right. The paper doesn't really do anything.
It satisfies type A urges and the need to feel in control. So there’s that.
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Old 03-01-2023, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I agree 100%. They could have just kept the old format (HTML, PDF, whatev) and sent it to our emails. Then sign off the FDRA on ACARS like every other airline in the world. I personally liked highlighting the PDF.

This is eerily reminiscent of the tablet we used prior to the iPad -- which shall not be named. We have to do things our own way.

We're stuck with it.
The company can’t force a pilot to check their company email. They floated the idea of changing that in November of 2021, but the two sides were unable to reach a deal, and now we are stuck with Mission+.
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Old 03-01-2023, 05:45 AM
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The company can’t force a pilot to check their company email. They floated the idea of changing that in November of 2021, but the two sides were unable to reach a deal, and now we are stuck with Mission+.
I know I’m slow and I have to take my shoes off to count above 10, but I’m confused….pilots don’t have to check email = we get Mission+?

I don’t see the connection.

Was there an option to get some amazing app that was the best of FD Pro + Foreflight + John Bell HTML combined but we had to open up an email to initiate, and the union put their foot down with email optionality?
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Originally Posted by buckleyboy
I think I am on a fleet where it is active, and I don’t even use the html other than to open the file from email to do initial ACARS loading/tell FAs the flight time. Otherwise, I like the paper and prefer to keep it.
Planning to bid a Huff Daland and be based in MLU next AE, too.

The paper release, while antiquated, is the last leverage we have over gate agents. Gate agent doesn’t get it until everyone on the crew is happy. We should keep it for that reason alone.
Send the flames.
You don’t need a piece of paper to have that leverage. You control the parking brake.
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