Mission plus
#471
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,982
I guess I don't get the extreme level of hate for M+...... Yea it's not mind blowing incredible, and it's got some clunkyness to it. I forced myself to use it for two weeks with no paper, eventually figured my new flow out, and I guess I just don't really mind it at this point. Ill take M+ any day over having to unfurl a paper release with no seams that doesn't fold and you have to unravel. We're dealing with some serious first world problems here.
#472
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,535
I guess I don't get the extreme level of hate for M+...... Yea it's not mind blowing incredible, and it's got some clunkyness to it. I forced myself to use it for two weeks with no paper, eventually figured my new flow out, and I guess I just don't really mind it at this point. Ill take M+ any day over having to unfurl a paper release with no seams that doesn't fold and you have to unravel. We're dealing with some serious first world problems here.
#473
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Gramercy Riffs
Posts: 527
I don’t really mind MiserablePlus but what really drives me batsh!t is that Delta is either unwilling or unable to have fewer apps do more stuff. If we run all the apps required and recommended to get the plane off the gate and in the air I think there are about 8 or 9, and even more maddening is that they all use different communication protocols. A800, F500, cellular data, Bluetooth, American Sign Language, braille…
Why is it every time someone in a cubicle decides/realizes/proposes on a zoom meeting that something needs to be visible to the pilots they just make another app? Why can’t some of them be added to an existing app and the overall number be reduced? One app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. Or at least not 8! Aaaargh.
I need a drink.
Why is it every time someone in a cubicle decides/realizes/proposes on a zoom meeting that something needs to be visible to the pilots they just make another app? Why can’t some of them be added to an existing app and the overall number be reduced? One app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. Or at least not 8! Aaaargh.
I need a drink.
#474
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,982
I don’t really mind MiserablePlus but what really drives me batsh!t is that Delta is either unwilling or unable to have fewer apps do more stuff. If we run all the apps required and recommended to get the plane off the gate and in the air I think there are about 8 or 9, and even more maddening is that they all use different communication protocols. A800, F500, cellular data, Bluetooth, American Sign Language, braille…
Why is it every time someone in a cubicle decides/realizes/proposes on a zoom meeting that something needs to be visible to the pilots they just make another app? Why can’t some of them be added to an existing app and the overall number be reduced? One app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. Or at least not 8! Aaaargh.
I need a drink.
Why is it every time someone in a cubicle decides/realizes/proposes on a zoom meeting that something needs to be visible to the pilots they just make another app? Why can’t some of them be added to an existing app and the overall number be reduced? One app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. Or at least not 8! Aaaargh.
I need a drink.
Hear hear! Best piece of kit I've found is the "Mission" add on. Once you download and install it, you just open Mission+ and select it from the sharing options and it automatically opens and loads FD Pro and WX Viewer for the selected flight. Saves much tap-tap-tapping.
#475
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,168
I don’t really mind MiserablePlus but what really drives me batsh!t is that Delta is either unwilling or unable to have fewer apps do more stuff. If we run all the apps required and recommended to get the plane off the gate and in the air I think there are about 8 or 9, and even more maddening is that they all use different communication protocols. A800, F500, cellular data, Bluetooth, American Sign Language, braille…
Why is it every time someone in a cubicle decides/realizes/proposes on a zoom meeting that something needs to be visible to the pilots they just make another app? Why can’t some of them be added to an existing app and the overall number be reduced? One app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. Or at least not 8! Aaaargh.
I need a drink.
Why is it every time someone in a cubicle decides/realizes/proposes on a zoom meeting that something needs to be visible to the pilots they just make another app? Why can’t some of them be added to an existing app and the overall number be reduced? One app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them. Or at least not 8! Aaaargh.
I need a drink.
That’s a lot of words to say the truth. It’s a poorly thought out POS. No need to sugar coat it.
Fundamental things like simply laying all the important stuff out on the front page. Wtf?
Day mode? What’s my planned arrival gate? Etc etc
P O S
Flush it down wherever the surface went.
#477
#478
I guess I don't get the extreme level of hate for M+...... Yea it's not mind blowing incredible, and it's got some clunkyness to it. I forced myself to use it for two weeks with no paper, eventually figured my new flow out, and I guess I just don't really mind it at this point. Ill take M+ any day over having to unfurl a paper release with no seams that doesn't fold and you have to unravel. We're dealing with some serious first world problems here.
Of course these are first world problems, all our problems are first world problems and it could always be worse, welcome to the show. We're not exactly ready to get the pitchforks out here, just voicing issues. It's just a bit annoying how they are slow to fix the issues we bring up, but are quick to send and update to shut down stuff that actually is useful. They have a long history of casting aside or shutting down things that just work, nearly always falling back on the trusty "security" excuse. It would be great if they'd harness the oaknotes display that has all the pertinent data distilled into one, easy to understand, screen...rather than making us hunt and peck all over the place. Heck, I'd be a bit happier if they simply allowed the down arrow to work throughout the entire flight, rather than just the current sub-section. Also (from a WB friend), they released it without a crew rest calculator, then re-released it with a crew rest calculator that doesn't work lol.
He's probably referencing the fix list and verifying the routing on the ND. However, I believe the fix list is found on the FMS init page. Maybe looking for the reporting points?
Last edited by crewdawg; 07-30-2023 at 04:06 PM.
#479
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,535
Hear hear! Best piece of kit I've found is the "Mission" add on. Once you download and install it, you just open Mission+ and select it from the sharing options and it automatically opens and loads FD Pro and WX Viewer for the selected flight. Saves much tap-tap-tapping.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post