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07-25-2023, 01:41 PM
#431
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I use Oaknotes almost exclusively. The only thing I use M+ for is NOTAMS. Other than the company taking down the links, is there any official communication barring the use of Oaknotes? It's super easy to share from ipad to ipad so the cat is out of the bag and a good number of people are still going to be using it.
07-25-2023, 01:56 PM
#432
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Gotcha. I'm honestly not trying to talk down the third party products. Sounds like the guys that put it together know what they're doing. Just seems odd they're highly praised here but I haven't met anyone on the line that uses it. And I tend to ask my captains since I wanna see what its like first hand.
07-25-2023, 01:58 PM
#433
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07-25-2023, 03:51 PM
#434
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Might be a time-on-the-property thing.
John Bell has been doing great things IT wise for at least a decade. "Grey area" stuff. For international ops, especially.
Had to be there.
07-25-2023, 04:47 PM
#435
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There are many of us who know how to use M+, and have determined John's HTML is far superior. It's not a question of adaption, just preserving as much QOL as possible for as long as possible in reference to the flight plan.
07-25-2023, 05:26 PM
#436
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Ok, if it's available to you, you have every right to use it if you want to. But his assertion that it was gonna cause a bunch of delays and disruptions because guys have refused to use it is childish. You can use whatever you want but it's still our responsibility to be proficient enough on M+ to safely operate and on time.
07-25-2023, 05:43 PM
#437
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M+ rots. Typical delta IT crap. I'm using HTML John Bell. Pretty sure it will be around for sometime. At least to my retirement anyway, after that I don't care what you use.
07-25-2023, 05:46 PM
#438
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So what's next, speed trials and a check ride on M+ ? What's the min/max timeframe going to be? What if you fail? You get trips dropped with pay until satisfactorily completing your M+ duties on your next check??
M+ rots. Typical delta IT crap. I'm using HTML John Bell. Pretty sure it will be around for sometime. At least to my retirement anyway, after that I don't care what you use.
M+ rots. Typical delta IT crap. I'm using HTML John Bell. Pretty sure it will be around for sometime. At least to my retirement anyway, after that I don't care what you use.
07-25-2023, 06:06 PM
#439
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So what's next, speed trials and a check ride on M+ ? What's the min/max timeframe going to be? What if you fail? You get trips dropped with pay until satisfactorily completing your M+ duties on your next check??
M+ rots. Typical delta IT crap. I'm using HTML John Bell. Pretty sure it will be around for sometime. At least to my retirement anyway, after that I don't care what you use.
M+ rots. Typical delta IT crap. I'm using HTML John Bell. Pretty sure it will be around for sometime. At least to my retirement anyway, after that I don't care what you use.
07-25-2023, 06:21 PM
#440
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Ok, if it's available to you, you have every right to use it if you want to. But his assertion that it was gonna cause a bunch of delays and disruptions because guys have refused to use it is childish. You can use whatever you want but it's still our responsibility to be proficient enough on M+ to safely operate and on time.
I think the big delays will come from the M+ server issues. Those have been going on for over a year now and still aren't resolved. Something tells me they'll go live on M+ before they should.
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