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Old 05-18-2023, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71
I disagree. It works well. You guys sound like my dad with his iPhone - How the hell do I work this thing? 18 pages worth of comments on Mission+??? Just use the damn thing consistently and you won’t even have to think about it.
M- is like a door that looks like a push but is really a pull. It works, but is poorly designed. The bigger problem is it isn't just one poorly designed door, the entire app is filled with 100 of them so you're constantly bonking around to find what you need. Can you force yourself to find everything? Yes. Is it a good app? No.

I've used iCrew for years and I still bounce around pages looking for things sometimes. M- is the same way.
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Old 05-18-2023, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
M- is like a door that looks like a push but is really a pull. It works, but is poorly designed. The bigger problem is it isn't just one poorly designed door, the entire app is filled with 100 of them so you're constantly bonking around to find what you need. Can you force yourself to find everything? Yes. Is it a good app? No.

I've used iCrew for years and I still bounce around pages looking for things sometimes. M- is the same way.
No offense, but why are you jumping around? Just use the side arrows to go down to the bottom of the flight plan. Then NOTAMs and then Weather. It's a C product but it's useable and functional enough.

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Old 05-19-2023, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Well you're fairly new here so I'd expect you to have not much familiarity with our release format.
I stopped reading here, because this makes you come across as a pompous old timer wanting to lecture the “stupid young guys” that don’t know any better. And I’m not even one of those, but I probably fall into that category for you because I haven’t been here 20 years….
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Old 05-19-2023, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71
I disagree. It works well. You guys sound like my dad with his iPhone - How the hell do I work this thing? 18 pages worth of comments on Mission+??? Just use the damn thing consistently and you won’t even have to think about it.
When a product sucks the reviews/ratings/comments tend to be longer on the internet. A good product has maybe 5 reviews that all say "good" and "worked as advertised for me." If this thing was customer facing it would have been canned or redesigned yesterday. It's OK to say a pig is a pig, regardless of how it identifies while wearing lipstick.
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Old 05-19-2023, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejuice71
I disagree. It works well. You guys sound like my dad with his iPhone - How the hell do I work this thing? 18 pages worth of comments on Mission+??? Just use the damn thing consistently and you won’t even have to think about it.
Agreed. Works pretty well for an A model and I love the potential of the product. Even John B stated it has potential to be better than HTML+.
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Old 05-19-2023, 07:17 AM
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I agree with the others here...I started using Mission plus exclusively this last rotation. I'm pretty comfortable with it now and can use it fine....however it's by no means a good product. The HTML flight plan worked just fine and was much quicker to reference information....the only cool feature about it was when we got an ATC reroute on the ground, it auto populated the new route
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Old 05-19-2023, 07:44 AM
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Agreed. Works pretty well for an A model and I love the potential of the product. Even John B stated it has potential to be better than HTML+.
That is a polite way of saying "this product needs much improvement". Untapped potential is wasted productivity. We deserve a product that has fulfilled its potential.
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Old 05-19-2023, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
That is a polite way of saying "this product needs much improvement". Untapped potential is wasted productivity. We deserve a product that has fulfilled its potential.
Deserve? Not really. The only product Delta has officially produced until this year was a single long roll of paper. That's the benchmark they are using, unfortunately. Sure, I'd love all the whizz-bangs of the best state of the art apps but I also recognize that I work for Delta, the airline where IT goes to die.
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7. Different. Apps. Should be 1, just saying...
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Old 05-19-2023, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
7. Different. Apps. Should be 1, just saying...
Outside of widget Wx, M+ and FDPro what are you using?
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