Originally Posted by JamesBond

And when they shut down the html version?

Originally Posted by Meme In Command

Are we still gonna have that legacy flight plan file in the miscellaneous docs of M+ after the html goes away?

Originally Posted by Herkflyr

I'll give it a C+, maybe a B-.

PROs

FMS Initialization tile. How about that? They actually have a near-replica of the FMS init screens, with the most important numbers even highlighted in blue for cross-reference.

Enroute Information tile: Especially for the international flying, I do appreciate the FIR boundary breakdowns--much appreciated having the FIR four-letter identifier, actual name and lat/longs for the FIR boundary, once again all in a dedicated, organized space.I also like the "Key Info/Activities during flight" list.

The ETOPS tile. I recently checked out on the 330, and the ETOPS block is actually very nice. Lots of great info, in a larger font than the HTML flight plan, and presented in a very useful format, with all the ETOPS info you need in one tile.

Redispatch tile. Much of the same positive feedback as the ETOPS one. All the redispatch info you need, all in one dedicated space. No hunting around the flight plan or dispatcher remarks necessary.



CONs (most of these are well-known and grumbled about; I'll try not to editorialize too much).

Permanent dark mode. What the hell? This may be the only text-based app I've ever seen that comes with a by-default permanent dark look. Yes, I know, you can go into the "accessibility" settings on the iPad and enable triple-click inverse colors, giving you a day mode via a backdoor method. But I won't do that. Did we have to do that with the HTML flight plan, Aerodocs or FD Pro? So why must we jump through ridiculous hoops to get the functionality that should have been there from day one.

No highlighting ability.

Ridiculous signature requirement (or will be when it is mandatory).

"Nav log" tile that literally allows you to see no more than two waypoints at a time. Who thought of that one, and better yet who concluded "yeah, that's a great presentation and layout"?

No NOTAM filtering by runway.

While there are some good features to M+, my initial feeling was "after all this time, and even months-long delays in order to 'get it right', this is the product you released to the pilot group?" It more reminds me of a "rapid prototype" experiment. How can you release a text-based app with no highlighting, permanent dark look and no simple tap to switch between day and night mode? (without resorting to messing with iPad settings).

I know that improvements and fixes are on the way, but some never should have had to fixed in the first place. Contrast this rollout with that of Widget Weather, when it rolled out several years ago. Even though we all knew that Widget Wx was destined to become even better, from day 1, we could all see that Widget Wx was an exceptional piece of software, and it was well-received and highly praised almost from the beginning. Can anyone say anything close to that about M+? I doubt it.

I hope that over time M+ will get better and better, and perhaps in a couple or three years we will all be saying "remember when M+ had such a mediocre unveiling and there were lots of bad reviews of it? Look how far we've come for the better." Let's hope so.

Originally Posted by JamesBond

And when they shut down the html version?

Originally Posted by bluejuice71

You need to setup Smart Invert per app and add Mission+. It will be in light mode during the day and go to dark mode automatically when your iPad does.

Originally Posted by Herkflyr

I'll give it a C+, maybe a B-.

PROs

FMS Initialization tile. How about that? They actually have a near-replica of the FMS init screens, with the most important numbers even highlighted in blue for cross-reference.

Enroute Information tile: Especially for the international flying, I do appreciate the FIR boundary breakdowns--much appreciated having the FIR four-letter identifier, actual name and lat/longs for the FIR boundary, once again all in a dedicated, organized space.I also like the "Key Info/Activities during flight" list.

The ETOPS tile. I recently checked out on the 330, and the ETOPS block is actually very nice. Lots of great info, in a larger font than the HTML flight plan, and presented in a very useful format, with all the ETOPS info you need in one tile.

Redispatch tile. Much of the same positive feedback as the ETOPS one. All the redispatch info you need, all in one dedicated space. No hunting around the flight plan or dispatcher remarks necessary.



CONs (most of these are well-known and grumbled about; I'll try not to editorialize too much).

Permanent dark mode. What the hell? This may be the only text-based app I've ever seen that comes with a by-default permanent dark look. Yes, I know, you can go into the "accessibility" settings on the iPad and enable triple-click inverse colors, giving you a day mode via a backdoor method. But I won't do that. Did we have to do that with the HTML flight plan, Aerodocs or FD Pro? So why must we jump through ridiculous hoops to get the functionality that should have been there from day one.

No highlighting ability.

Ridiculous signature requirement (or will be when it is mandatory).

"Nav log" tile that literally allows you to see no more than two waypoints at a time. Who thought of that one, and better yet who concluded "yeah, that's a great presentation and layout"?

No NOTAM filtering by runway.

While there are some good features to M+, my initial feeling was "after all this time, and even months-long delays in order to 'get it right', this is the product you released to the pilot group?" It more reminds me of a "rapid prototype" experiment. How can you release a text-based app with no highlighting, permanent dark look and no simple tap to switch between day and night mode? (without resorting to messing with iPad settings).

I know that improvements and fixes are on the way, but some never should have had to fixed in the first place. Contrast this rollout with that of Widget Weather, when it rolled out several years ago. Even though we all knew that Widget Wx was destined to become even better, from day 1, we could all see that Widget Wx was an exceptional piece of software, and it was well-received and highly praised almost from the beginning. Can anyone say anything close to that about M+? I doubt it.

I hope that over time M+ will get better and better, and perhaps in a couple or three years we will all be saying "remember when M+ had such a mediocre unveiling and there were lots of bad reviews of it? Look how far we've come for the better." Let's hope so.

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

Instead of contacting the development team, maybe everyone should reach out to J. Bell and beg him to come up with a product that will allow users to upload Mission+ product and give everyone a "legacy" version of the flight plan that will end-runaround the current "improvement"?

Originally Posted by Trip7

New Mission+ is out with significant improvements including NOTAM filtering. And this is just the beginning. Patience is a virtue