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Old 04-07-2023, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
My favorite is checking how close to arrival time we’ll be after take off. Open nav log, insert take off time, scroll to bottom of nav log, see landing time, then go to fuel page to see taxi in time, add that to landing time, then go back to home page to see what arrival time is supposed to be.

Or I could just use the HTML flight plan, type in wheels up time, then instantly have how many minutes early or late we are with no other steps.

Just one of many things I despise about the app. I stopped using it. Too much work.
Just found it today.

In-Flight tab>Nav Log>select down arror to view 2nd page tiltled "enroute information". Will display all activities for the flight such as departure time you entered in Nav Log; TOC; step climbs; pos reports and landing time. Upper left on all tabs will always display ETA at gate.
Starting to get the hang of it.
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Old 04-07-2023, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Humbleavi8t0r
Just found it today.

In-Flight tab>Nav Log>select down arror to view 2nd page tiltled "enroute information". Will display all activities for the flight such as departure time you entered in Nav Log; TOC; step climbs; pos reports and landing time. Upper left on all tabs will always display ETA at gate.
Starting to get the hang of it.
The ETA in the upper left of the screen corresponds to the Planned In time in the current flight plan and does not update to reflect the takeoff time.
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Old 04-07-2023, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Humbleavi8t0r
Just found it today.

In-Flight tab>Nav Log>select down arror to view 2nd page tiltled "enroute information". Will display all activities for the flight such as departure time you entered in Nav Log; TOC; step climbs; pos reports and landing time. Upper left on all tabs will always display ETA at gate.
Starting to get the hang of it.
Well that was easy. Nothing like an intuitive user interface. One place…the right place…some place.

this thing is complete garbage. They are going to need many many more improvements before they can replace the html flight plan.

I’m just going to maintain the status quo, and when they get serious about providing a legitimate, usable product, I’ll take another look. I’m guessing at least another year and a personnel shuffle before that happens.

M+ is an embarrassment. Sheehan missed the mark and put the wrong people in charge. This falls on him. I can’t imagine the money they’ve wasted on this so far. But they’re too invested to start over.

there is no such thing as a “sunk cost” at delta air lines. Because Delta never makes mistakes.
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno
Well that was easy. Nothing like an intuitive user interface. One place…the right place…some place.

this thing is complete garbage. They are going to need many many more improvements before they can replace the html flight plan.

I’m just going to maintain the status quo, and when they get serious about providing a legitimate, usable product, I’ll take another look. I’m guessing at least another year and a personnel shuffle before that happens.

M+ is an embarrassment. Sheehan missed the mark and put the wrong people in charge. This falls on him. I can’t imagine the money they’ve wasted on this so far. But they’re too invested to start over.

there is no such thing as a “sunk cost” at delta air lines. Because Delta never makes mistakes.
​​​​​​I'll be surprised if they don't turn off the HTML flight plan and cutover to M+ by end of summer
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Giordano Bruno
Well that was easy. Nothing like an intuitive user interface. One place…the right place…some place.

this thing is complete garbage. They are going to need many many more improvements before they can replace the html flight plan.

I’m just going to maintain the status quo, and when they get serious about providing a legitimate, usable product, I’ll take another look. I’m guessing at least another year and a personnel shuffle before that happens.

M+ is an embarrassment. Sheehan missed the mark and put the wrong people in charge. This falls on him. I can’t imagine the money they’ve wasted on this so far. But they’re too invested to start over.

there is no such thing as a “sunk cost” at delta air lines. Because Delta never makes mistakes.
I agree the people in charge of this POS need to be replaced. For Brad, I think the train had left the station before he took over. Hopefully he can right the ship. I highly respect him as a leader and I truly think he's one of a few that have pilot interests in mind. Fingers crossed.
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
​​​​​​I'll be surprised if they don't turn off the HTML flight plan and cutover to M+ by end of summer
Agreed. They're chomping at the bit to pat themselves on the back for going paperless.
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Humbleavi8t0r
Just found it today.

In-Flight tab>Nav Log>select down arror to view 2nd page tiltled "enroute information". Will display all activities for the flight such as departure time you entered in Nav Log; TOC; step climbs; pos reports and landing time. Upper left on all tabs will always display ETA at gate.
Starting to get the hang of it.
In Flight -> Enroute Information -> Navigation does not actually show the FIR ETA. If the FIR is between waypoints, it will show the waypoint and the ETA of the previous waypoint. Put another way, FIR in the Enroute Information section will show the waypoint it is associated with in the Nav Log.

While this is not a big deal, it is rather useless and shows come cluelessness in the design.
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Humbleavi8t0r
Just found it today.

In-Flight tab>Nav Log>select down arror to view 2nd page tiltled "enroute information". Will display all activities for the flight such as departure time you entered in Nav Log; TOC; step climbs; pos reports and landing time. Upper left on all tabs will always display ETA at gate.
Starting to get the hang of it.
I looked at the In Flight -> Enroute Information -> Key info/Activities during flight and compared it to the corresponding waypoint times on the htm flight plan, which I cross checked with the Nav Log. I cant figure out what these times correspond to.
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Old 04-08-2023, 04:58 AM
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Has anyone figured out a good filter for runway arrival combined notams? I'm fumbling all over the notams (like back in the paper days) to get the combination specifics for last minute arrival and runway changes.
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Old 04-08-2023, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Has anyone figured out a good filter for runway arrival combined notams? I'm fumbling all over the notams (like back in the paper days) to get the combination specifics for last minute arrival and runway changes.
There is no good way. Not being negative, just spitting facts. Unless you have done some stupid prioritizing that some whacko recommended on SkyNet, you just have to put in the effort. Mission + is terrible. What is the return policy?
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