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Old 03-06-2023, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Also the signing process is pretty dumb. Most airlines don't even make the FO sign the release anyway.
We didn't either, for decades. A few years ago they added the requirement for all active pilots. Don't know why.
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Old 03-06-2023, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
We didn't either, for decades. A few years ago they added the requirement for all active pilots. Don't know why.
FAR 117. Fitness for duty acknowledgement became required.
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Old 03-06-2023, 04:42 AM
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FAR 117. Fitness for duty acknowledgement became required.
Makes sense. So I assume the prior comment of "most other airlines don't have the FOs sign the release" is inaccurate?
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Old 03-06-2023, 06:17 AM
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Just dropping in to point out that M+ is a third party app that Delta bought, Delta IT didn’t design it, nor did they design things like the delta app. Stuff like that gets farmed out. Not defending M+, I just cringe when I see people complain about IT, when really it should be directed at whatever management team picked this and had the chance to customize it.
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Old 03-06-2023, 07:18 AM
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M+ is the first app or piece of technology that has made me feel old. I was a whiz at the html. It was easy to use and had everything. M+ is clunky. I’m saying the same things lot have said already. I use to fill out my lineup card in 30 seconds. Now it takes me closer to 5 minutes. Simple things like arrival gate are buried. Fuel loading isn’t as easy to translate with required and optional gas. NOTAMS are a PITA, why do I have to scroll through all to get what I want?

Im sure I will get used to it but after a decade of paperless promises, I’m amazed this is what we got. Oh well, onto the next crisis.
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Old 03-06-2023, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
M+ is the first app or piece of technology that has made me feel old. I was a whiz at the html. It was easy to use and had everything. M+ is clunky. I’m saying the same things lot have said already. I use to fill out my lineup card in 30 seconds. Now it takes me closer to 5 minutes. Simple things like arrival gate are buried. Fuel loading isn’t as easy to translate with required and optional gas. NOTAMS are a PITA, why do I have to scroll through all to get what I want?

Im sure I will get used to it but after a decade of paperless promises, I’m amazed this is what we got. Oh well, onto the next crisis.
Ok. I need more info. Why do people care so much about the planned arrival gate?
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Old 03-06-2023, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Ok. I need more info. Why do people care so much about the planned arrival gate?
That’s fair. I’ve just always used it to set up my tablet. Not really necessary until NATS brief I suppose and it’s always subject to change. Guess it’s a thing I’ve always done…habits and all.
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Old 03-06-2023, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Makes sense. So I assume the prior comment of "most other airlines don't have the FOs sign the release" is inaccurate?
United FOs (& Capts) click a button acknowledging fit for duty before being able to see the flt plan. Then the Capt (or really brave FO) will click a separate button to accept the flight plan.
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Old 03-06-2023, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
M+ is the first app or piece of technology that has made me feel old. I was a whiz at the html. It was easy to use and had everything. M+ is clunky. I’m saying the same things lot have said already. I use to fill out my lineup card in 30 seconds. Now it takes me closer to 5 minutes. Simple things like arrival gate are buried. Fuel loading isn’t as easy to translate with required and optional gas. NOTAMS are a PITA, why do I have to scroll through all to get what I want?

Im sure I will get used to it but after a decade of paperless promises, I’m amazed this is what we got. Oh well, onto the next crisis.
Lineup card.
Tweet flashbacks.
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Old 03-06-2023, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Thruster
Lineup card.
Tweet flashbacks.
Grabs paper bag and breathes heavily.
I guess this was my version of tell me you’re an Air Force guy without saying you’re an Air Force guy.
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