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03-01-2023, 10:11 AM

#101

Gone Flying

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

That doesn’t answer my question.

The poster I replied to seem to imply that because we aren’t required to check out emails, we got stuck with Mission+….I don’t see the connection.

I’m not talking about getting notified for RR’s or pee tests.

if i can’t be obligated to check my email, how can we transition to a electronic flight plan where the only way I can access it is to receive it via email.

I think that’s where this was going.

03-01-2023, 10:19 AM

#102

CBreezy

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

if i can’t be obligated to check my email, how can we transition to a electronic flight plan where the only way I can access it is to receive it via email.

I think that’s where this was going.

Maybe, but that's an absurd slippery slope. What's the difference between checking your email for your flight plan and them slipping in a reroute or them having a pop up on any one of the 5 apps we use during flight? I don't think it's a valid argument that we aren't using the HTML flight plan because of some issue with pilots not "having" to check their email.

03-01-2023, 10:21 AM

#103

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

i see what you are saying, but I also understand why the union might not want to open that specific Pandora’s box.

it’s way different saying you have to use the jepp app and saying you are required to check your company email while on duty.

03-01-2023, 10:38 AM

#104

Trip7

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Originally Posted by Gspeed

I'm not complaining. People here are saying that there's zero reason to have absolute control with a paper release and I'm saying there is a reason and possibly others. YMMv

I'm sorry if this comes off harsh but...

I can't believe it's 2022...and we have not only grown adults, but Delta Captains talking about using a piece of paper as leverage. My goodness. It's like Captains have completely forgotten about the power of the parking brake. YIKES

03-01-2023, 11:47 AM

#105

igotgummed

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I’m enjoying the latest action by many agents lately.

They hand me the updated weather, and while I’m looking at the LATT times, since that’s all I really care about, they like to immediately point and ask “hey can I get the release??”

yep…..when I’m done reading what I’m reading and hand it to you.

03-01-2023, 12:07 PM

#106

OOfff

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Originally Posted by igotgummed

great news on that front: LATT updates come to mission plus automagically

03-01-2023, 12:12 PM

#107

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Originally Posted by OOfff

great news on that front: LATT updates come to mission plus automagically

so I’ve noticed.

03-01-2023, 01:11 PM

#108

Gspeed

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Originally Posted by Trip7

The parking brake doesn’t mean much when said company stooges are willing to use disciplinary measures after the fact. I’m glad that you never had to deal with it.

03-01-2023, 01:53 PM

#109

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Originally Posted by Gspeed

The parking brake doesn’t mean much when said company stooges are willing to use disciplinary measures after the fact. I’m glad that you never had to deal with it.

please name a single time a delta pilot has been disciplined for holding the brake to discuss something with a gate agent