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01-20-2023, 05:17 AM

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Yes, sorry. Could have elaborated and made better description. For some reason my phone no longer uses the mobile version.

Go down to bottom left where it says default and select mobile

01-20-2023, 12:59 PM

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Anyone who whines about west coast bases should immediately check lax73A open time right now. What In the actual **** is going on. Deadhead is duty right?

01-20-2023, 01:33 PM

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Anyone who whines about west coast bases should immediately check lax73A open time right now. What In the actual **** is going on. Deadhead is duty right?

That's every 73N base right now. Guess the company finally listened to the FRMT.

Those SEA BWI red-eyes appeae to be an 8D3 violation. DH through Atlanta is legal and gets in 4 minutes quicker 🤣🤣 Hope someone can cash in before the company removes them all.

01-20-2023, 02:20 PM

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01-20-2023, 05:51 PM

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Can you explain what’s going on to a dumb pilot? Is this going to happen in perpetuity? It’s kind of scary tbh. I can hardly function after a red eye, being asked to deadhead and be on the hook if **** gets sideways just seems dumb for folks that can’t stay up all night. Maybe if duty after a red eye was first class window so one can sleep that would be palatable, but can you imagine being stuck in 36b for a 4:30 flight back to the west coast? **** balls

01-20-2023, 06:09 PM

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I have no clue why the trips were changed and the deadheads to or from a red-eye were put in open time. That's something the FRMT will have to answer. I just know they seem to have built the SLC BWI trips illegally and someone could make some quick easy money by picking them up and calling scheduling to get them nooped via 8D3.

01-20-2023, 08:49 PM

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This all sounds fatiguing.

01-21-2023, 09:26 AM

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Go down to bottom left where it says default and select mobile

Thank You!!!!!!!!!

01-21-2023, 01:24 PM

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I get sick of flying equivalently ****ty trips while the west coast is protected. If it’s bad it’s bad. To me the west coasters are the squeaky wheel.

Protected? West coast bid packet changes constantly. Ton of red eyes since summer, feb trips still have red eyes including these random drops and a lot of trips starting before 0600. I’m not aware of being protected from anything. We usually fly most of the late flights out of the east coast. I do secure checks on pretty much every day of flying.

Rotations are bad everywhere, but hey at least staffing is even worse. The fallacy of other bases having it better is ridiculous.

The one advantage west coast bases have is stage length is longer due to distances between airports out west.

01-22-2023, 07:45 AM

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So now I'm DH on the redeye I was supposed to operate. How is this going to mitigate fatigue? I'm still up all night and now I get the pleasure of a middle seat in basic economy. The following day will still be an attempt at day sleep in a hotel with the associated elevator use, hallway traffic, sunlight, big city horn honking, and vacuuming maid disruption.