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01-19-2023, 10:49 AM

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DeadStick

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Red Eye Drops? The FA’s are always putting this in my coffee and it wakes me right up!

01-19-2023, 01:39 PM

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Forgotmyhat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myfingershurt

A terrible choice. It’s like they enjoy giving all their money away.

It keeps the riff-raff out.

01-19-2023, 02:23 PM

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MooseMuss

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LAX 320 has seen as much as 74% red-eye starts. 73 not quite as bad but usually 30%+. Both usually operate one if not two legs following a day sleep. BTW, that sleep frequently follows a long van ride around sunrise, ie Fort Lauderdale to Miami.

I don't think any NB base has had cushy rotations since at least early 2019 and I don't blame any base for trying to improve their lot.

01-19-2023, 04:53 PM

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Tadertot

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They should not be modifying your rotation prior to the airborne departure of your first flight segment.

01-19-2023, 06:24 PM

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Trip7

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Is the OP talking about the company pulling those trips off people's line? Because NYC73NA just got a huge drop of DH to SLC/DEN/LAS day layover Redeye back 10:30 2 days that block about half that.

01-19-2023, 06:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip7

Is the OP talking about the company pulling those trips off people's line? Because NYC73NA just got a huge drop of DH to SLC/DEN/LAS day layover Redeye back 10:30 2 days that block about half that.

Likewise for SLC a bunch of Red Eye to TPA then double DH back.

01-19-2023, 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myfingershurt

A terrible choice. It’s like they enjoy giving all their money away.

I consider it buying the lifestyle I enjoy. Not a lot of places to wake up and surf 360+ days a year anywhere else in the US without a 2000mile overwater commute.

having <$100 in total utilities bills is just a bonus that offsets a bunch of the difference

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01-20-2023, 04:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

Likewise for SLC a bunch of Red Eye to TPA then double DH back.

Same in DTW. Had one of these gems on my line at the end of a 4 day. The red eye was changed to a DH with a note in icrew about FRMT Sec. 4E (whatever that means). Now the red eye leg is sitting in open time as part of a 2 day built as DH, 12 hour dayover then operate the red eye back (along with pretty much all the DEN and LAS red eyes)

To me it seems like someone finally realized that building trips like this was a bad idea and it's a sloppy attempt to fix it.

01-20-2023, 04:54 AM

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They dropped dozens in open time. Really tanked the already bad reserve coverage for next month. Think February is gonna run a little hot because of those.

01-20-2023, 05:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip7

Is the OP talking about the company pulling those trips off people's line? Because NYC73NA just got a huge drop of DH to SLC/DEN/LAS day layover Redeye back 10:30 2 days that block about half that.

Yes, sorry. Could have elaborated and made better description. For some reason my phone no longer uses the mobile version.