How the AIP Happened
12-06-2022, 03:48 PM
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12-07-2022, 12:12 AM
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. Actually doesn’t that violate our DALPA retro policy? I thought even if it was just 0.01 percent we had to have full retro… Considering we can’t possibly have a new contact till February, doesn’t that guarantee there is no January 2023 retro?Maybe we threw in a month or two of non-retro labor as a signing bonus to Ed
12-07-2022, 04:32 AM
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Well at least we asked nicely . Actually doesn’t that violate our DALPA retro policy? I thought even if it was just 0.01 percent we had to have full retro… Considering we can’t possibly have a new contact till February, doesn’t that guarantee there is no January 2023 retro?
Maybe we threw in a month or two of non-retro labor as a signing bonus to Ed
. Actually doesn’t that violate our DALPA retro policy? I thought even if it was just 0.01 percent we had to have full retro… Considering we can’t possibly have a new contact till February, doesn’t that guarantee there is no January 2023 retro?Maybe we threw in a month or two of non-retro labor as a signing bonus to Ed
I'm not defending anything. But nowhere in that language is it implicit that it's "full" retro. To an extent, that's the problem. One could look at that and interpret this AIP is 'compliant', but one could also interpret it as implying DOS pay rate back to amendable date. Neither side of that argument is outright wrong. But it's ambiguous enough that you can't argue successfully that the AIP violates the policy.
Of course we all wanted DOS rate retro to amendable, but at this point the question at hand is this: Weighing everything in the balance, is it worth the risk to say "no"?
12-07-2022, 05:59 AM
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I disagree. You’re telling me they’re going to pay us 14 percent retro on all 2022 flight pay, but then the first months of 2023, we get nothing. There will be agreed to timelines. They change DOS to effective date when TA’d.
ALPA is failing on this if true.
ALPA is failing on this if true.
12-07-2022, 05:59 AM
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Funny. Think the point is Delta has never gone close to three years and two months past an amendable date. They tried it this time. With the weak retro/most notably no retro for 2023?! extending seems to have worked well. Why not try it again in a few years!
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