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12-06-2022, 09:27 AM

#121

MJP27

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Originally Posted by tunes

nope, as is, your 2023 will be at 2019 rates until ratified.

That seems odd. Why would 2023 be excluded?

12-06-2022, 09:29 AM

#122

CX500T

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Originally Posted by MJP27

That seems odd. Why would 2023 be excluded?

That is something I do wonder, because the company and mediator at least had an idea on the timeline of "no faster than 52 days from the time MEC gets TA for review" (7 days to look at it, and 45 days IF they vote to shorten MEMRAT)

12-06-2022, 09:36 AM

#123

TED74

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Originally Posted by tunes

nope, as is, your 2023 will be at 2019 rates until ratified.

But during that time the company understands they’ll get 18-24% less effort, 18-24% less good will and 18-24% more sick calls above historic norms. 18-24% more legs will be flown at cost index 200, APUs will run 18-24% more hours and NPS will probably be down 18-24%.

12-06-2022, 09:37 AM

#124

TruNorth

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunes

nope, as is, your 2023 will be at 2019 rates until ratified.

Was this done knowing full well it would create a void zone, or is it something that might be side-lettered as an oversight?

12-06-2022, 10:04 AM

#125

tunes

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Originally Posted by CX500T

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Originally Posted by dragon

Seems like a side letter to make everything back date to Jan 1 might be in order, provided the agreement passes. This could be a significant turd in the punchbowl.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJP27

That seems odd. Why would 2023 be excluded?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruNorth

Was this done knowing full well it would create a void zone, or is it something that might be side-lettered as an oversight?

Negotiators said they asked and the company said absolutely not, it will be DOS

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12-06-2022, 10:11 AM

#126

StartngOvr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunes

Negotiators said they asked and the company said absolutely not, it will be DOS

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I guess same goes for hats then?

12-06-2022, 10:13 AM

#127

Vsop

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Originally Posted by TED74

and 1,000% more hours banked for future use

12-06-2022, 10:18 AM

#128

Flownit

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Good point. A few rounds of contract education emails should go out focusing on how to exercise these provisions. It’s just business, right?

12-06-2022, 01:07 PM

#129

JamesBond

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Originally Posted by Trip7

JMHO, provided there are no unsuspected bombs in the TA final language, we should take the QOL and run. The downside far exceeds any additional upside

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