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11-21-2022, 10:10 AM
#293
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
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Nothing cosmic here. All I did was estimate that with a 20% raise your average line swine pilot was due a roughly $40/hour raise. Some more (Top 350A ~$70/hr, Second year 717B ~$25/hr). The multiplied that times 3 years of ALV. $40/hr x 72hrs/mo x 36mos = $103,680. Really opens the eyes to how much "value" this "management" team has been "extracting" from us with these drawn out negotiations. I'm very much in the FUPM camp.
I don't have the time, the resources nor the inclination, but certainly someone out there could figure it out down to per month per category. That might be interesting.
11-21-2022, 10:30 AM
#294
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Position: Capt
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200k per year in 2019, 2020 and 2022 will be
12k each year at 6/6/6.
obviously dependent on whatever is agreed upon
11-21-2022, 10:32 AM
#295
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Ethics: a set of moral principles, especially ones relating to or affirming a specified group, field, or form of conduct.
When our negotiating committee from our UNION (our specified group) asks us not to engage in trial balloons on social media and then you do -especially to lower expectations- then yes you have engaged in what I think most would call an ethical violation. But you do you.
When our negotiating committee from our UNION (our specified group) asks us not to engage in trial balloons on social media and then you do -especially to lower expectations- then yes you have engaged in what I think most would call an ethical violation. But you do you.
11-21-2022, 11:07 AM
#296
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Maybe they got Endeavor confused with mainline, happens all the time to pax.
11-21-2022, 11:18 AM
#297
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11-21-2022, 11:42 AM
#298
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
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If they assumed a 6% raise per year, that would be $72K.. 200Kx.06 + 200Kx.12 + 200Kx.18 right? It’d be a touch higher if you compound the 6%
11-21-2022, 11:51 AM
#300
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Everyone is just having fun with numbers because we don’t have any idea what the retro percent will be and how it will be calculated. I’d like to see something like I posted above yours where a yearly % raise is used, and compounded each year, but I honestly don’t know what will happen. A yearly percent raise will look smaller to the public, but the numbers for 2022 could hit 20%, if the number used is a reflection of CPI increases over the years and not a standard yearly raise like 3 or 4 percent. 3 or 4% for retro is going to be way, way too low for this pilot group.
