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11-19-2022, 10:38 AM
#211
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 630
we say this but very few have actually shut down lots have been reshuffled though it is true.
11-19-2022, 10:46 AM
#212
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,311
11-19-2022, 11:09 AM
#213
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: 737 A
Posts: 1,064
You’re right I can’t think of too many that have fully shut down. Top of my head ExpressJet, Compass, Comair, ASA. Many others were merged with cheaper operators, and even more were forced into restructuring.
If I were to predict the future, I would think Delta will prop up Republic by whatever means necessary while avoiding a large pilot payroll increase.
Once the supply demand curve flips, Delta will sell off Endeavor to some holding company (is MAIR still around?). Then Delta will award enough of the DCI contracts to Republic to make Endeavor restructure, and repurchase Endeavor at a discount.
This will be a repeat cycle until pay drops low enough that no one wants to be a pilot again, and we start over.
This “clueless legacy pilot” got to tour with this band from 06-17.
ALPA always said there wasn’t a pilot shortage, but a pay shortage. I think they’ve been proven right.
If I were to predict the future, I would think Delta will prop up Republic by whatever means necessary while avoiding a large pilot payroll increase.
Once the supply demand curve flips, Delta will sell off Endeavor to some holding company (is MAIR still around?). Then Delta will award enough of the DCI contracts to Republic to make Endeavor restructure, and repurchase Endeavor at a discount.
This will be a repeat cycle until pay drops low enough that no one wants to be a pilot again, and we start over.
This “clueless legacy pilot” got to tour with this band from 06-17.
ALPA always said there wasn’t a pilot shortage, but a pay shortage. I think they’ve been proven right.
11-19-2022, 11:10 AM
#214
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,032
You’re right I can’t think of too many that have fully shut down. Top of my head ExpressJet, Compass, Comair, ASA. Many others were merged with cheaper operators, and even more were forced into restructuring.
If I were to predict the future, I would think Delta will prop up Republic by whatever means necessary while avoiding a large pilot payroll increase.
Once the supply demand curve flips, Delta will sell off Endeavor to some holding company (is MAIR still around?). Then Delta will award enough of the DCI contracts to Republic to make Endeavor restructure, and repurchase Endeavor at a discount.
This will be a repeat cycle until pay drops low enough that no one wants to be a pilot again, and we start over.
This “clueless legacy pilot” got to tour with this band from 06-17.
ALPA always said there wasn’t a pilot shortage, but a pay shortage. I think they’ve been proven right.
If I were to predict the future, I would think Delta will prop up Republic by whatever means necessary while avoiding a large pilot payroll increase.
Once the supply demand curve flips, Delta will sell off Endeavor to some holding company (is MAIR still around?). Then Delta will award enough of the DCI contracts to Republic to make Endeavor restructure, and repurchase Endeavor at a discount.
This will be a repeat cycle until pay drops low enough that no one wants to be a pilot again, and we start over.
This “clueless legacy pilot” got to tour with this band from 06-17.
ALPA always said there wasn’t a pilot shortage, but a pay shortage. I think they’ve been proven right.
11-19-2022, 11:55 AM
#215
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,558
The value is not even close to a billion in 2019. If the 1.38 billion figure is correct that’s for 2023 not 2020. My personal min was around 1 billion in 2020. If you take the highest current rumor and we got full retro for 2020 we would get about 240 million for that year. With 5% raises in 2021and 2022 the 1 billion I wanted in 2020 becomes about 1.4 billion in the last year of the contract. 1.6 billion if a 5% raise for 2023.
More importantly, stop undermining the NC and your fellow pilots.
11-19-2022, 12:56 PM
#216
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
11-19-2022, 12:57 PM
#217
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Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
11-19-2022, 12:58 PM
#218
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,635
I am trying to get the best possible contract for my fellow pilots. I bet when a TA is finally announced most posters will be on here trying to undermine it every way possible. It’s going to be a ugly ratification.
11-19-2022, 01:22 PM
#219
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 194
This is a given. Everyone will be a company plant sent here to manage expectations, just like the trial balloon pilots now. Sadly, so many don’t have a clue that management could care less about this forum and the pilots that post here.
11-19-2022, 02:00 PM
#220
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Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 560
Lol. This whole thread is full of dumb posts. Mostly by the three stooges. I can’t say their names because they cry to the mods. They have fun when they sail. 3=7+7+7 ?? Last but not least a guy who completely blanked when he signed up for APC and so he uses two letters OOO and FFF.
