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01-19-2023, 09:21 AM

#981

Rinaldi

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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo

That’s not what I see. 2nd year Capt on 717 will be $278. 2nd year FO on 350/330/764 will be $206. I don’t see essentially the same. Even if you are talking with green slips - I don’t see them as the same at all.

you miss the point. For a senior FO, say a 2014 hire, 9 year pay for 717 captain is 294. 9 year 350/330/764 FO pay is 276. Not enough of a pay difference to give up the quality of life of a senior wide body FO. That’s why captain is going so junior.

01-19-2023, 09:32 AM

#982

Mesabah

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Over the last three years of no contract, everyone has become accustom to living on less, and learned QoL is more important. The Covid/inflation effect.

01-19-2023, 09:36 AM

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Herkflyr

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

Over the last three years of no contract, everyone has become accustom to living on less, and learned QoL is more important. The Covid/inflation effect.

Is that why we've been flying record green slips?

01-19-2023, 09:42 AM

#984

Mesabah

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

Is that why we've been flying record green slips?

Yes, because it's better to be a senior FO, and have options.

01-19-2023, 09:45 AM

#985

1Taco

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“Tomorrow morning” for the AE release. Source is skynet.

01-19-2023, 10:10 AM

#986

tunes

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Originally Posted by 1Taco

“Tomorrow morning” for the AE release. Source is skynet.

so Tuesday.....

01-19-2023, 10:24 AM

#987

tennisguru

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Originally Posted by tunes

so Tuesday.....

of which month?

01-19-2023, 10:48 AM

#988

m3113n1a1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldi

I'd guess that 2014 hire would be MORE senior as a 717A though.

01-19-2023, 11:31 AM

#989

interceptorpilo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldi

That may be your point but it wasn’t mine. I was responding to what I thought was a discussion about new hires or just a couple years in taking Captain positions. The reasons for doing that from a numbers perspective are obvious. I will give you that for whatever reason - the dollar difference between NB A and WB B as you get more senior on property narrows.