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Old 01-10-2023, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I don’t think it’s necessarily unsafe. Many pilots come here with thousands of hours of experience. And those who don’t will have the benefit of flying with experienced FOs.
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RunFast
3 rd break, not a big deal, I’ll make it up there when I make it up there. First break, I’m halfway undressed and ready to leave the cockpit passing 10k’. Just joking, I follow the FOM.
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
I'm grasping at financial analysis based on education and experience. Piloting airplanes and developing real estate came long after a corporate career doing financial analysis on a 9 figure P&L.

The proper analysis is net cost to Delta inclusive of operational benefits compared to incremental cost of meals. Retail price of tickets is peripheral to the comparison.

Here is a random article from 2020 showing
Meal Costs from $4-$100. Without accessing Delta contracts, there is not an exact answer.
Look, I'm not trying to start a urination competition. I also don't care to read your resume unless it reads "negotiating committee".

You can try to make the math worth any which way you want. Stating retail price being peripheral is fundamentally incorrect. For every seat taken by PS, that's a ticket that isn't sold. That's the only way the company sees it. Not to mention the cost of giving it to the FAs (likely their main apprehension to PSC). Your source is also vague in that it's from a travel blog who is quoting "business insiders" on price.

At the one airport that I commute out of, I have recently JS'd and watched 4 passengers each walk away with $1000 vouchers when we were oversold. Sure, that's not a 1K cost to the company...I get it. But stating we could've simply "traded" meals for PSC is illogical and serves only to validate your desire for PSC.

I would've loved to have PSC, but your argument simply doesn't hold water. If it were that simple, I suggest you get a job on the negotiating committee to pad that resume.

BREAK

On topic, I think we've hit the bottom of the wave on WBB. Expect it to get much more senior in the next few AEs. A combo of pay banding and many seat locks expiring this spring will be the catalysts.
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Any pilot hired at Delta is qualified for 7ERA. They not only will go thru a full school but also OE. There is a bevy of information in OE guides as well. Then there is also the Company pages for any unfamiliar airports. Then there’s also an FO to combine for the whole CRM thing. I always taught new Captains that you don’t have to know everything, but you need to know how to reach out to available resources to get the answer you need. Unless it’s a no time emergency, slow/stop the operation until you get what you need.

With that said, if you personally don’t think you’re ready, then by all means don’t bid it. However, there are plenty of Delta pilots capable and comfortable making the jump day 1.
Eh, I mean I remember them telling us at the interview that "Delta only hires captains". It's a cool catch phrase that makes ya feel good about yourself I guess (not directed at you Trip). Yea anyone hired can go and pass a 34/44X day-1 sure. But the OE guide and company pages aren't a replacement for experience (Trip not saying you think they are) and these guys aren't always going to have two or three other experienced FO's to draw upon on these trips all over the globe, especially out of NYC. It's all good I figured i'd catch a little incoming over this.....
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Anyone else eyeing 717 captain or am I in minority?
You think you’ll be able to hold it?
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Anyone else eyeing 717 captain or am I in minority?
It’s the worst. 4 legs a day. Burgs and villes. No crew meals or a bunk. Can’t afford a Miata on the pay. Jumpseat is horrible. Windows leak. Most FO’s are still learning how to count. You should avoid it. It’s as horrible as those who haven’t flown it say.
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Old 01-10-2023, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
It’s the worst. 4 legs a day. Burgs and villes. No crew meals or a bunk. Can’t afford a Miata on the pay. Jumpseat is horrible. Windows leak. Most FO’s are still learning how to count. You should avoid it. It’s as horrible as those who haven’t flown it say.
Yet there are still refugees from the rapid departure of the 88s mumbling to themselves how modern the MD-95 is.
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Old 01-10-2023, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Bunks are in the tail of the 330-200. Door 3 on the 300 and 900. If the flights full and you don’t get second break it definitely does become an obstacle course getting to and from the cockpit.

When you exit the rear bunk on a 200 after the third break just think of yourself as a gallant mid-evil Knight about to do battle with the FA's via "Cart Jousting!"

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Old 01-10-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Anyone else eyeing 717 captain or am I in minority?
You wouldn't like it
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Old 01-10-2023, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
When you exit the rear bunk on a 200 after the third break just think of yourself as a gallant mid-evil Knight about to do battle with the FA's via "Cart Jousting!"

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