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01-09-2023, 06:07 PM

#741

JSDL

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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg

The last few have been within 48 hrs. However there is no required timeline and they have taken up to 10 days in the past. I expect it to be on the quicker side, but plan for the worst, etc.

Follow-up question, when would one find out when they would go to training if awarded a position that required training?

Thank you
New guy

01-09-2023, 06:40 PM

#742

Whoopsmybad

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 20Fathoms

Yep those are two overlooked but important criteria for deciding what to bid. My top 5 (in order) are:

1: Jumpseat comfort

2: Destination quality

3: Co-worker quality

4: Ease of side window opening

5: Seniority

4a: Does said window leak?

01-09-2023, 06:49 PM

#743

Gunfighter

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Originally Posted by Wolf424

Just making sure I’m following…some of y’all are contrasting the merits of getting meals by saying you would rather have PSC.

Does anyone honestly think that’s even in the same realm of cost?

5 years ago the catering cost of providing passenger meals ranged from $10 in coach to $33 in business class. Adjusted for inflation you are looking at $15-$50 per meal. Multiply that by a 3 day trip and yes, the cost to Delta of providing pilot meals is equivalent to the net cost of PSC.

01-09-2023, 07:28 PM

#744

Baradium

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Position: 737 FO

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

You think they will be international meals huh?

I'm also skeptical about it being a linear increase.

01-09-2023, 07:39 PM

#745

RunFast

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

Is that on all the 330s?

yes. Filler

01-09-2023, 07:40 PM

#746

RunFast

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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

4a: Does said window leak?

No. No fishbowls….🤣

01-09-2023, 07:43 PM

#747

RunFast

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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms

Bunks are in the tail of the 330-200. Door 3 on the 300 and 900. If the flights full and you don’t get second break it definitely does become an obstacle course getting to and from the cockpit.

3 rd break, not a big deal, I’ll make it up there when I make it up there. First break, I’m halfway undressed and ready to leave the cockpit passing 10k’. Just joking, I follow the FOM.

01-09-2023, 07:49 PM

#748

Express pilot

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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex

I can’t decided between the 350 and the 330. I can hold both with pretty good seniority. I’ve been looking at the bid packs for a while and am familiar with that. I know the flight decks are different but can anyone give me their take on the “other things” such as bunks, jumpseats, co-workers, etc.? Thanks!

350. I have been on both. If you are coming from the 320, you might like 330 better. Easier transition. Same box.
If you’re coming from a Boeing, 350. I went from 777, 330, 350. Wish I just did 777, 350. Similar bid packages to the 777.

01-09-2023, 07:55 PM

#749

Express pilot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisguru

In general is 4-pilot flying less fatiguing than 3?

Yes it makes a big difference. Only negative is it’s tough for FO to get landings on 4 man.

01-10-2023, 02:30 AM

#750

crewdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunfighter

3x3 day HND trips for 81 hours of mostly circadian day/evening work is an entirely different job than 2x7 day JNB/CPT combos for 78 hours of vampire duty.

This! If I could have done nothing but 3-day AMS trips, where I took the first flight of the day to AMS and the last flight coming home, I'd get back to the 330 and never leave. You can easily spend the entire trip on your normal body clock. What was killer was taking the the last DTW departure of the night (2200ish?)...I was always a zombie on those. 6-day W trips were also terrible on sleep/fatigue for me.