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01-08-2023, 07:21 AM

#671

PilotJ3

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Originally Posted by alohacessna

All LAX has asked for is some transoceanic flying that leaves from non 7ER base locations like MSP, DTW, BOS etc. No one owns the flying and nothing in life is fair, but it is just fine to advocate for the allocation of a few scraps.

I still remember when LAX pilots were the ones complaining about the MCO Virtual base and how that flying was going to be pulled from them.

Alpa pulled down the 30 day card, nobody ever tried the Virtual Base and the company doesn’t know if McO would’ve been a good idea down the road. They should’ve let it run one month, then pull the card.

01-08-2023, 07:31 AM

#672

dragon

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Originally Posted by PilotJ3

Would have loved to see how the flying would have worked or not out of MCO. MEC got their knickers in a twist and lashed out by pulling the VB down. Seem to remember they did the SILs that way at the same time. Used to pay 55 hours but the Company tried the "see how many will take it" approach using less than 55 hours. I know of several pilots who were taking it because it benefitted their personal situations but the MEC said NO. Company wasn't hurt, only the membership. It's why we can't have nice things.

01-08-2023, 07:53 AM

#673

Trip7

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Originally Posted by boog123

Just a reminder, that’s not necessarily a good thing. DYOD

Just a reminder, you don't hear much complaining on here from NYC73NAs. There's a reason for that

01-08-2023, 09:00 AM

#674

Iceberg

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Originally Posted by dragon

I support the decision. Sure it would have been nice for the company and the pilots to see how it worked, but it would have been nice if the company hadn’t completely ignored the details of the agreement it was part of as well as violating our contract numerous times. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If they’re going to ignore the contract they signed, why should we work with them while they do it?

01-08-2023, 09:08 AM

#675

dragon

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Originally Posted by Iceberg

What part did they ignore? Its been a few years and I seem to remember we cancelled in a fit of pique over the SIL issue.

01-08-2023, 09:09 AM

#676

m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

On the contrary. It’s the LAX pilots who are squealing the loudest about “stolen flying”. Take a look at their council updates. They apparently think they deserve their fair share of Europe (while demanding all the Hawaii flying, no less).

LAX council updates are embarrassing and childish all around. Really unprofessional and ineffective.

01-08-2023, 09:48 AM

#677

notEnuf

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Originally Posted by dragon

What part did they ignore? Its been a few years and I seem to remember we cancelled in a fit of pique over the SIL issue.

The company didn't implement it in the ascribed time frame. Either party was able to pull it down. The union did. You can characterize it as a "fit" but I'm glad we slammed that pandora's box closed. It should have never been considered and it was a + on jobs that we did.