Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-08-2023, 05:05 AM
#6191
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As someone who was here when age 65 happened. The hiring stopped within 3 months. Of course we were also dealing with a merger and recession. 150 pilots total were hired in 2010. That was it between March 2008 and and the first class in 2014. I’d call that about 5 years of stagnation. My point is raising the retirement age to 67 will stagnate everyone for 2 years. Don’t kid yourself. You get your extra 2 years in whatever seat you’re in when it happens. If you still retire at 65, then chances are you lost 2 widebody captain years to whatever seat you’re currently in.
I’ve heard this story before. Anyone that wanted to retire early it took the VEOP, I don’t know if the statistic still 63 avg retirement.
12-08-2023, 05:59 AM
#6192
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,443
Right, because we all know that the unprecedented growth this airline is experiencing will come to a screeching halt. And you do realize that not everyone approaching 65 is not in the top of the food chain don't you? Of course you do, but to acknowledge that doesn't fit the narrative. But what is really disturbing is that you are showing with this post that you are more interested in pilots that do NOT have a job here and protecting THEM than you do those on your current seniority list. Why is that? (don't worry, I don't expect an answer as it is painfully obvious.)
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12-08-2023, 06:34 AM
#6193
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,716
Oh christ now we’re saying that age 67 is just altruism on behalf of those who were hired at a later than average age?
12-08-2023, 06:57 AM
#6194
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I'd like to wait for the AE results before offering my altruistic support for age 67. I may need another couple AEs before I see the importance of letting experienced pilots fly. Until then, get out of my seat...
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One third of us were hired with the expectation of retiring at 60. We stagnated for 5 years when Congress set the parking brake on retirements. Anyone (not everyone) who stagnated at 90% has a small window of opportunity for locking themselves into the highest pay rate possible before the music stops again. How much FOMO is reflected in the WBA bids?
12-08-2023, 07:03 AM
#6195
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I'd like to wait for the AE results before offering my altruistic support for age 67. I may need another couple AEs before I see the importance of letting experienced pilots fly. Until then, get out of my seat...
/S/
One third of us were hired with the expectation of retiring at 60. We stagnated for 5 years when Congress set the parking brake on retirements. Anyone (not everyone) who stagnated at 90% has a small window of opportunity for locking themselves into the highest pay rate possible before the music stops again. How much FOMO is reflected in the WBA bids?
I'd like to wait for the AE results before offering my altruistic support for age 67. I may need another couple AEs before I see the importance of letting experienced pilots fly. Until then, get out of my seat...
/S/
One third of us were hired with the expectation of retiring at 60. We stagnated for 5 years when Congress set the parking brake on retirements. Anyone (not everyone) who stagnated at 90% has a small window of opportunity for locking themselves into the highest pay rate possible before the music stops again. How much FOMO is reflected in the WBA bids?
12-08-2023, 12:26 PM
#6199
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,443
Speaking of blastphemy, I don't mean to be sacrilegious to our new FLT OPS god (RG) but he was in fine form with the last memo. Surrounding himself in the vesments and infallibility of his position he proclaimed near schedule perfection by improving rotations and reducing fatigue calls through crew resources hard work.
He doesn't remeber that he was the one to implement the optimizer and destroy rotations in the first place. I think he needs a reminder and the thousands of pilots hired since his schenanigans began should get the full history as well. This guy, really, his hubris knows no bounds.
He doesn't remeber that he was the one to implement the optimizer and destroy rotations in the first place. I think he needs a reminder and the thousands of pilots hired since his schenanigans began should get the full history as well. This guy, really, his hubris knows no bounds.
12-08-2023, 12:31 PM
#6200
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Position: UNA
Posts: 4,626
Speaking of blastphemy, I don't mean to be sacrilegious to our new FLT OPS god (RG) but he was in fine form with the last memo. Surrounding himself in the vesments and infallibility of his position he proclaimed near schedule perfection by improving rotations and reducing fatigue calls through crew resources hard work.
He doesn't remeber that he was the one to implement the optimizer and destroy rotations in the first place. I think he needs a reminder and the thousands of pilots hired since his schenanigans began should get the full history as well. This guy, really, his hubris knows no bounds.
He doesn't remeber that he was the one to implement the optimizer and destroy rotations in the first place. I think he needs a reminder and the thousands of pilots hired since his schenanigans began should get the full history as well. This guy, really, his hubris knows no bounds.
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