Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-05-2023, 07:06 PM
#6121
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hopefully we can reach an agreement should 67 pass and I expect ALPA and management have been working on this behind the scenes. but I don’t expect anything like what JB wants to happen without significant gives by ALPA.
12-05-2023, 08:13 PM
#6122
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Guys, we need to stop fighting each other..I kinda agree with JB here. If 67 happens and those pilots can't stay on their WB due to ICAO rules I would want ALPA to fight for them and get as much money from the company as possible. The company is our enemy, not fellow pilots. Let them have their money, it doesn't take anything from the rest of us.
12-05-2023, 09:36 PM
#6123
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Ok... He's a scenario for you. 67 passes but ICAO drags their feet. What is the best financial decision for 'Nick' in this case ( Or anyone else caught up in it). Should Delta pay protect him to go back to NB (would alpa advocate for that)? Or... Should he go out on disability at WB Captain pay?
12-06-2023, 01:05 AM
#6124
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Guys, we need to stop fighting each other..I kinda agree with JB here. If 67 happens and those pilots can't stay on their WB due to ICAO rules I would want ALPA to fight for them and get as much money from the company as possible. The company is our enemy, not fellow pilots. Let them have their money, it doesn't take anything from the rest of us.
12-06-2023, 01:13 AM
#6125
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Guys, we need to stop fighting each other..I kinda agree with JB here. If 67 happens and those pilots can't stay on their WB due to ICAO rules I would want ALPA to fight for them and get as much money from the company as possible. The company is our enemy, not fellow pilots. Let them have their money, it doesn't take anything from the rest of us.
12-06-2023, 03:09 AM
#6126
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Guys, we need to stop fighting each other..I kinda agree with JB here. If 67 happens and those pilots can't stay on their WB due to ICAO rules I would want ALPA to fight for them and get as much money from the company as possible. The company is our enemy, not fellow pilots. Let them have their money, it doesn't take anything from the rest of us.
12-06-2023, 03:12 AM
#6127
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Guys, we need to stop fighting each other..I kinda agree with JB here. If 67 happens and those pilots can't stay on their WB due to ICAO rules I would want ALPA to fight for them and get as much money from the company as possible. The company is our enemy, not fellow pilots. Let them have their money, it doesn't take anything from the rest of us.
The easy answer is this. Up until ICAO changes the age to match what the US has, you get paid what you can fly. If you are on the 350 and can hold all domestic, then you can get a full month. Bid reserve? The guarantee matches the domestic trip mix percentage or what you actually fly.
And have the option of an immediate VD for any age 65 plus pilot. This will allow the ones who believe there is a pilot shortage to bid into a category that has a lot of domestic flying to help alleaviate the problem they claim is the reason they should be able to fly into their golden years.
12-06-2023, 04:16 AM
#6128
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Unless you don't consider profit sharing taking something?
The easy answer is this. Up until ICAO changes the age to match what the US has, you get paid what you can fly. If you are on the 350 and can hold all domestic, then you can get a full month. Bid reserve? The guarantee matches the domestic trip mix percentage or what you actually fly.
And have the option of an immediate VD for any age 65 plus pilot. This will allow the ones who believe there is a pilot shortage to bid into a category that has a lot of domestic flying to help alleaviate the problem they claim is the reason they should be able to fly into their golden years.
The easy answer is this. Up until ICAO changes the age to match what the US has, you get paid what you can fly. If you are on the 350 and can hold all domestic, then you can get a full month. Bid reserve? The guarantee matches the domestic trip mix percentage or what you actually fly.
And have the option of an immediate VD for any age 65 plus pilot. This will allow the ones who believe there is a pilot shortage to bid into a category that has a lot of domestic flying to help alleaviate the problem they claim is the reason they should be able to fly into their golden years.
12-06-2023, 04:23 AM
#6129
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Seems simple enough. The only thing we might need to negotiate for a potential shenanigan the company could utilize. We should try and limit the company’s ability to bypass training on WB pilots choosing to bid NB. They could choose to trap a pilot in a category that doesn’t allow them to work a full schedule.
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