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Old 12-04-2023, 04:18 PM
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While they posted 35 last month, they actually awarded 41 NYC330As due to contingent vacancies. I bet this AE pushes it over 50 after contingent vacancies are filled (which is just under 1/3 of the Jan '24 category size).
Thats why I asked earlier, but didn't get a response....what's on the horizon for new destinations on the A330 in NYC? Usually they spread the vacancies around the different bases and most backfills occur in NYC as current NYC pilots bid those vacancies at different bases, but this time, the vast majority of vacancies on the A330 for the last two bids are NYC vacancies. This is different than normal ops. I'm curious I what's going on. After the VEOP, they started hiring like crazy because before they could upgrade FO's, they needed FO's to take their place. Then they filled the NB A ranks, with the senior (and junior) FO's so they had somewhere to draw WB A's from. The two biggest oddities is the lack of WB B openings and that all these WB A openings are NYC.
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Old 12-04-2023, 04:31 PM
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Thats why I asked earlier, but didn't get a response....what's on the horizon for new destinations on the A330 in NYC? Usually they spread the vacancies around the different bases and most backfills occur in NYC as current NYC pilots bid those vacancies at different bases, but this time, the vast majority of vacancies on the A330 for the last two bids are NYC vacancies. This is different than normal ops. I'm curious I what's going on. After the VEOP, they started hiring like crazy because before they could upgrade FO's, they needed FO's to take their place. Then they filled the NB A ranks, with the senior (and junior) FO's so they had somewhere to draw WB A's from. The two biggest oddities is the lack of WB B openings and that all these WB A openings are NYC.
Does that mean they plan to do more 2 pilot ops instead of 3 with the 330 out of NYC (such as transcons) which is why they're staffing up on captains as they already have the FOs for that?
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Old 12-04-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
Thats why I asked earlier, but didn't get a response....what's on the horizon for new destinations on the A330 in NYC? Usually they spread the vacancies around the different bases and most backfills occur in NYC as current NYC pilots bid those vacancies at different bases, but this time, the vast majority of vacancies on the A330 for the last two bids are NYC vacancies. This is different than normal ops. I'm curious I what's going on. After the VEOP, they started hiring like crazy because before they could upgrade FO's, they needed FO's to take their place. Then they filled the NB A ranks, with the senior (and junior) FO's so they had somewhere to draw WB A's from. The two biggest oddities is the lack of WB B openings and that all these WB A openings are NYC.
Reading between the lines. BS said that the ATL 765 was partly for redeployment of the airframes there. That can only mean they are coming from NYC. I would speculate that the 330 will be taking over some traditionally 765 routes. LHR, ZHR, MAD, BCN, NCE, GRU are some of the cities that might become more prevalent on the 330 bid pack.
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Old 12-04-2023, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vsop
Reading between the lines. BS said that the ATL 765 was partly for redeployment of the airframes there. That can only mean they are coming from NYC. I would speculate that the 330 will be taking over some traditionally 765 routes. LHR, ZHR, MAD, BCN, NCE, GRU are some of the cities that might become more prevalent on the 330 bid pack.
BCN is already in the NYC 330 bid pack. I'd love to see some Nice and ZRH too. MAD would be nice occasionally. When I first started flying shotgun on the ER I was getting MAD all the time. It was one of the more junior trips. After the first few times I was not looking forward to it, but every time I went there, we always did something different and I always had a good time.
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Old 12-04-2023, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
BCN is already in the NYC 330 bid pack. I'd love to see some Nice and ZRH too. MAD would be nice occasionally. When I first started flying shotgun on the ER I was getting MAD all the time. It was one of the more junior trips. After the first few times I was not looking forward to it, but every time I went there, we always did something different and I always had a good time.
Why would MAD be junior? Low credit?
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Old 12-04-2023, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
... Usually they spread the vacancies around the different bases and most backfills occur in NYC as current NYC pilots bid those vacancies at different bases, but this time, the vast majority of vacancies on the A330 for the last two bids are NYC vacancies. This is different than normal ops. I'm curious I what's going on. ...
I wonder if this is the exact strategy; to acquire the total number of system-wide 330As while limiting training churn.

Maybe posting ATL/MSP/DTW/SEA 330A slots creates more training churn and movement due to the desirability of those slots and, like you said, creates NYC backfills anyway.

Why not just put the training slots where it'll create the least churn.
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Old 12-04-2023, 07:38 PM
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I know the west coast doesn’t get as much attention, but what’s going on with LAX350? The B category is growing by 12% just this AE. Since the September AE it’s up a whopping 25%! It’s usually a pretty stagnant category as far as growth.

We’re already doing 2x daily SYD and AKL right now. Could this just be a delayed reaction to staff for that increase, or is there something else on the horizon for LAX?
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Old 12-04-2023, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Forgotmyhat
I know the west coast doesn’t get as much attention, but what’s going on with LAX350? The B category is growing by 12% just this AE. Since the September AE it’s up a whopping 25%! It’s usually a pretty stagnant category as far as growth.

We’re already doing 2x daily SYD and AKL right now. Could this just be a delayed reaction to staff for that increase, or is there something else on the horizon for LAX?
LAX to PVG starts in March 4x weekly. Lots of flying time coming on that route.
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LAX to PVG starts in March 4x weekly. Lots of flying time coming on that route.
Ah, well there you go! I hadn’t heard that. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Does that mean they plan to do more 2 pilot ops instead of 3 with the 330 out of NYC (such as transcons) which is why they're staffing up on captains as they already have the FOs for that?

Or maybe 4 pilot ops? 🧐

We can hope, right?
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