Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-04-2023, 11:00 AM
#5981
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Definitely not anywhere close to zero. There are a lot of guys who would want to keep flying because it's what they do. It's who they are. Thats why so many former 30 year legacy widebody captains end up flying some mid size bizjet well into their seventies. They can't bear the idea of not being a pilot anymore.
12-04-2023, 11:04 AM
#5982
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I think you’re going to be sorely disappointed. There is very little support for age 67 within DALPA and the demographics of the pilot group do not support collective bargaining in favor of the 65-67 aged pilots. Collective being the operative verbiage.
Most of us aren’t against increasing the mandatory retirement age. We just want to see it accomplished scientifically. Studies should be conducted. Maybe the mandatory age should be 70? But how would we know without the data? What is being called for is akin to going flying without a flight plan and not checking any Wx or NOTAMs. We are pilots. We make fact-based decisions rooted in logic. The very premise of this whole argument is contrarian to that. And why now? Where were all of you when they were raising the retirement age to 65? Why weren’t you advocating for age 67 then?
Most of us aren’t against increasing the mandatory retirement age. We just want to see it accomplished scientifically. Studies should be conducted. Maybe the mandatory age should be 70? But how would we know without the data? What is being called for is akin to going flying without a flight plan and not checking any Wx or NOTAMs. We are pilots. We make fact-based decisions rooted in logic. The very premise of this whole argument is contrarian to that. And why now? Where were all of you when they were raising the retirement age to 65? Why weren’t you advocating for age 67 then?
12-04-2023, 11:17 AM
#5984
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12-04-2023, 12:16 PM
#5985
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Yep, I bet WB A goes into the mid 5000s with this one. Good movement for sure! No love for anything west of the Mississippi though 😔. Makes sense I suppose given the state of the Pacific, but pretty rough for us left coasters to see all but 9 of those wide body As go to the eastern time zone.
12-04-2023, 12:52 PM
#5986
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While they posted 35 last month, they actually awarded 41 NYC330As due to contingent vacancies. I bet this AE pushes it over 50 after contingent vacancies are filled (which is just under 1/3 of the Jan '24 category size).
12-04-2023, 01:14 PM
#5988
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12-04-2023, 01:23 PM
#5989
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Definitely not anywhere close to zero. There are a lot of guys who would want to keep flying because it's what they do. It's who they are. Thats why so many former 30 year legacy widebody captains end up flying some mid size bizjet well into their seventies. They can't bear the idea of not being a pilot anymore.
Somebody will down grade to NBA and find out how much work it is and tell the tribe. I'm not worried they flood the market, Delta will want to control the process, remember the last time we jammed the gears into reverse on the training department. The smart ones will finish the basic med process at 64 and 11 months and buy a twin Beech and head for the Caribbean to cash the checks.
12-04-2023, 03:31 PM
#5990
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Could it be implemented immediately? Could there be an ICAO provision attached? It’s easy for anyone to speculate and assume one day the nozzle is turned on… unlike last time, ICAO isn’t running with this idea, and the US is pushing this idea, where, if anything ICAO is opposed to it….until they aren’t.
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