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Old 12-04-2023, 10:09 AM
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I'm starting to Duolingo French (imagine wine emoji here)

I've been speaking right hand french for several years. I'm ready to learn the left hand version with the taxi lessons added in. At least when I get doxxed by the AE results, it will be buried in with 47+ other awards.

The three times I've been NYC WBB, I've loved the flying and hated the commute. Commuting to NYC reserve is an expensive price to pay for flying with my favorite A. Is it bad that I'm already planning my NYC exit strategy before even finding out the AE results?
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Old 12-04-2023, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
Most likely it will be a negotiated buyout resembling the VEOP. And of course that's not going to come without concessions that the juniors will feel. If only they didn't throw us under the bus in C19. Looks like we're getting a second chance at a fourth pillar.

As for ICAO, they move glacially slow. The FAA going to 67 will trigger studies and a multi year review. It will be way cheaper for the airlines to negotiate a buyout.

But short of that, yeah, I guess we'll be dogpiling the mid to upper seniority NBAs. It would be fine to go back to 320A with super seniority and working easy trips.
I think you’re going to be sorely disappointed. There is very little support for age 67 within DALPA and the demographics of the pilot group do not support collective bargaining in favor of the 65-67 aged pilots. Collective being the operative verbiage.

Most of us aren’t against increasing the mandatory retirement age. We just want to see it accomplished scientifically. Studies should be conducted. Maybe the mandatory age should be 70? But how would we know without the data? What is being called for is akin to going flying without a flight plan and not checking any Wx or NOTAMs. We are pilots. We make fact-based decisions rooted in logic. The very premise of this whole argument is contrarian to that. And why now? Where were all of you when they were raising the retirement age to 65? Why weren’t you advocating for age 67 then?
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Old 12-04-2023, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
I'll throw out the wildcard that NYC765 or NYC330 A goes to almost 10,000

Why? Because I have a grand track record of seat-locking myself on something good (73NA, 320A, 7ERA) when the next AE would have something better that I could have held if I waited one more AE.

(not realistic, but I will laugh my balls off if a pilot junior to me becomes the plug with the next guy 1000s senior)
The last AE had 61 WB A with 35 in NYC and the plug dropped roughly 500 numbers.

This time we have 94 WB A with 47 NYC. I think the plug will drop another 500-800 numbers on this AE.

I'll make the first WBA plug guess at 5,123
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Old 12-04-2023, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
The last AE had 61 WB A with 35 in NYC and the plug dropped roughly 500 numbers.

This time we have 94 WB A with 47 NYC. I think the plug will drop another 500-800 numbers on this AE.

I'll make the first WBA plug guess at 5,123
That sounds plausible.. What about NB A? 14k?
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Old 12-04-2023, 10:31 AM
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Couple obvservations on the 330 flying. 82 nyc 330A is a ton of movemnet between this ae and last months. For DTW 18 slots considering the size of the base is also creating movement. However, summer season for WB typicaly starts end of march why have they not added hardly any FO on the widebody fleets over the last couple AE? I had heard some of the 330 FO bases were almost 70-80 pilots short for summer 2024, when do they plan on adding these pilots is what i wonder.
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Old 12-04-2023, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The Localizer
Couple obvservations on the 330 flying. 82 nyc 330A is a ton of movemnet between this ae and last months. For DTW 18 slots considering the size of the base is also creating movement. However, summer season for WB typicaly starts end of march why have they not added hardly any FO on the widebody fleets over the last couple AE? I had heard some of the 330 FO bases were almost 70-80 pilots short for summer 2024, when do they plan on adding these pilots is what i wonder.
You don't need additions to fill slots. It's likely that WBA will create a cascade of movement allowing for backfills in the WBB
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Old 12-04-2023, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You don't need additions to fill slots. It's likely that WBA will create a cascade of movement allowing for backfills in the WBB
it might fill slots with backfills but if the category itself is way short that requires new slots.
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Old 12-04-2023, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
That sounds plausible.. What about NB A? 14k?
NB A where? It's already been down into 14.5K for so for the last 2 AEs. Did you mean 15k?
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Old 12-04-2023, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Most of us aren’t against increasing the mandatory retirement age.
I think that's grossly inaccurate.
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Old 12-04-2023, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
The last AE had 61 WB A with 35 in NYC and the plug dropped roughly 500 numbers.

This time we have 94 WB A with 47 NYC. I think the plug will drop another 500-800 numbers on this AE.

I'll make the first WBA plug guess at 5,123

​​​​​​I think it hits 5000 for sure. I'm going with 5200
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