Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
10-17-2023, 07:22 AM
#5401
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Along those lines though, I'm always intrigued by the pilots who have qualified personal drops for trips in for weeks, yet never put their trip on the swap board, so I just assume they are only 1/2 interested in getting rid of it, like "yes honey, I'll try and get rid of that trip to join you and your sister on a trip to watch the nutcracker for the 20th time" kinda response. I would never contact them over it though, never seen a trip so "good" that I'd contact anyone over it. There's always another fish to fry around the corner.
10-17-2023, 07:58 AM
#5402
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DTW 320 vs 717
Sorry if this isn’t the appropriate thread for this. Current DTW717B sitting around 20%. My plan has been to stay where I’m at until they retire the 717 then go 320B to retain good seniority. The past couple months has me thinking about moving up that timeline (high ALVs on the 717, terrible reserve coverage, meh trips). Recently, 320B has had lower ALVs and lots of blue days. I know this is all cyclical. I’d be around 40% in the 320. Looking only through the QOL lens. Will I regret the seniority drop? Anything else I’m not thinking of? If it matters, my general strategy is bid reserve in the shoulder months then try to drop as much as I can and WS nice broken up 2 days when I have a line.
10-17-2023, 08:22 AM
#5404
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Sorry if this isn’t the appropriate thread for this. Current DTW717B sitting around 20%. My plan has been to stay where I’m at until they retire the 717 then go 320B to retain good seniority. The past couple months has me thinking about moving up that timeline (high ALVs on the 717, terrible reserve coverage, meh trips). Recently, 320B has had lower ALVs and lots of blue days. I know this is all cyclical. I’d be around 40% in the 320. Looking only through the QOL lens. Will I regret the seniority drop? Anything else I’m not thinking of? If it matters, my general strategy is bid reserve in the shoulder months then try to drop as much as I can and WS nice broken up 2 days when I have a line.
You won't even notice that 20% difference because you already get the days off you need and have the seniority to avoid anything you don't want.
Staying senior in the 717 is, in my mind, only for one thing -- dropping the whole schedule and picking up the easy pieces of broken trips.
If you can't reliably do that 80% of the time then it's not worth it because the bid package trips are so bad.
Make the move; you'll feel like you got a new job.
10-17-2023, 08:44 AM
#5405
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Sorry if this isn’t the appropriate thread for this. Current DTW717B sitting around 20%. My plan has been to stay where I’m at until they retire the 717 then go 320B to retain good seniority. The past couple months has me thinking about moving up that timeline (high ALVs on the 717, terrible reserve coverage, meh trips). Recently, 320B has had lower ALVs and lots of blue days. I know this is all cyclical. I’d be around 40% in the 320. Looking only through the QOL lens. Will I regret the seniority drop? Anything else I’m not thinking of? If it matters, my general strategy is bid reserve in the shoulder months then try to drop as much as I can and WS nice broken up 2 days when I have a line.
10-17-2023, 12:04 PM
#5406
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Along those lines though, I'm always intrigued by the pilots who have qualified personal drops for trips in for weeks, yet never put their trip on the swap board, so I just assume they are only 1/2 interested in getting rid of it, like "yes honey, I'll try and get rid of that trip to join you and your sister on a trip to watch the nutcracker for the 20th time" kinda response. I would never contact them over it though, never seen a trip so "good" that I'd contact anyone over it. There's always another fish to fry around the corner.
10-17-2023, 01:17 PM
#5407
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Admittedly I'm guilty of this. I need to remember to put trips on the swap board also. I always forget guys pick up from that. I also wouldn't mind someone texting me if they saw my trip in qualified open time asking me to put it on the swap board for them if they wanted it..
10-17-2023, 03:01 PM
#5408
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As previously stated above I am pretty sure a PB day will not work through the swap board. The originating Pilot will get rid of the trip but will not get the much sought after “TOFF” with the associated pay. That might explain some of the inconsistencies.
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10-17-2023, 07:15 PM
#5409
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Go treat yourself to some comfortable seats, huge windows but with nice UV shades, hot mic, unbeatable ergonomics and leg/foot space, room for your bag right behind you and not in some closet that you have to lift it up to, and better trips.
You won't even notice that 20% difference because you already get the days off you need and have the seniority to avoid anything you don't want.
Staying senior in the 717 is, in my mind, only for one thing -- dropping the whole schedule and picking up the easy pieces of broken trips.
If you can't reliably do that 80% of the time then it's not worth it because the bid package trips are so bad.
Make the move; you'll feel like you got a new job.
You won't even notice that 20% difference because you already get the days off you need and have the seniority to avoid anything you don't want.
Staying senior in the 717 is, in my mind, only for one thing -- dropping the whole schedule and picking up the easy pieces of broken trips.
If you can't reliably do that 80% of the time then it's not worth it because the bid package trips are so bad.
Make the move; you'll feel like you got a new job.
I can confirm this is 100% accurate.
Whatever better seniority might get you on 717 will be irrelevant compared to the ease and comfort of the Airbus IMHO.
10-18-2023, 09:52 AM
#5410
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No AE results yet?? Now they are REALLY trying to screw the pilots. /s
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