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10-14-2023, 12:04 PM

#5311

interceptorpilo

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Originally Posted by tripled

agree. Nov A wides just came out so it’s a good day to check and see what seniority got thanksgiving off in your favorite category. Rough future extrapolation could be 3% for next year. BWYW etc etc

85% in my category to hold Thanksgiving off.

10-14-2023, 12:37 PM

#5312

blue vortex

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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo

85% in my category to hold Thanksgiving off.

Looks like it varies widely by BES. DTW 737A got unstacked pretty close to 50% right over Thanksgiving.

The extra 5:15 not trumping the day with the family

10-14-2023, 01:06 PM

#5313

CoefficientX

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Originally Posted by The Localizer

Curious about narrobody A seniority. For those that wait to bid captain until they have seniority to hold weekends off and holidays, schedule control, reserve ect. What is typically that magic number? Is it 60 percent, 50? Has holiday unstacking gone senior to 50 percent before? Thanks

I’m 40% NBA. I can hold holidays off easily. I’m picky about the trips I fly and at this point have to report late Sunday’s, 7-8pm, to get the trips I like. If I didn’t care about trips I’d hold all weekends off.

10-14-2023, 05:28 PM

#5314

BlueSkies

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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo

85% in my category to hold Thanksgiving off.

Same for mine. I actually didn't get a terrible schedule and have not just Thanksgiving off but a few days off around it which is pretty amazing. Usually in Nov or Dec I'm stuck working 8-9 days in a row with a holiday hidden in there somewhere. I hope it continues this way in Dec!

10-15-2023, 08:30 AM

#5315

iahflyr

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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo

85% in my category to hold Thanksgiving off.

Proof that most pilots actually do care more about money than QOL 😜

I’m not complaining. It’s extra money for the pilot group, and allows junior pilots to get holidays off. It’s a great benefit.

10-15-2023, 08:50 AM

#5316

Scooter432

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I’m just curious how accurate the forecast training dates are in general for the last few AEs ? Most everyone shows Jan for the Oct bid, any chance that gets moved up? I’m not sure what folks are the previous AEs have done vs projected. I would just not like to be tricked into thinking Jan training and then get moved up to December. I’m not sure a convert last would matter much?

10-15-2023, 10:02 AM

#5317

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by Scooter432

Look at it this way, Convert after Junior would not cost much (time). And it would virtually eliminate your issue.

10-15-2023, 10:34 AM

#5318

Hotel Kilo

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Originally Posted by igotgummed

It will absolutely change bidding behavior, just like the last couple holidays with holiday pay.

I didn't see any evidence of that looking at the most of the NB A wides. I looked at 73/320 in DTW, MSP, LAX, NYC and ATL. Dudes got unstacked right up to the cutoff line over the holiday. Lots of purple over the 23rd for sure. So no, not seeing it. What BES are you seeing this?

10-15-2023, 10:43 AM

#5319

Scooter432

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

Look at it this way, Convert after Junior would not cost much (time). And it would virtually eliminate your issue.

I agree, but there are so few folks training I’m still concerned about a move up. Long story short may just wait out another month to be sure.

10-15-2023, 11:30 AM

#5320

FangsF15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

ATL 320 A. First unstacked line holder 71%. First unstacked Reserve 88%, and that wasn’t even on Thanksgiving, which was 92%.

So, yeah, it made a pretty huge difference.