Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
10-14-2023, 09:49 AM
#5301
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 379
It will absolutely change bidding behavior, just like the last couple holidays with holiday pay.
) as far as holidays go since this is the first holiday season with holiday pay. I am curious to see how it affects the coverage awards and if it markedly changes bidding behavior.
10-14-2023, 09:56 AM
#5302
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,828
Not sure about Christmas, but I have no doubt that you will have to be very senior to work New Years Eve and New Years Day. 5:15 for each day will not be passed up by many.
10-14-2023, 10:12 AM
#5303
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,802
Coverage still went pretty much right up to the limit in my category for Nov, it will be interesting to see how Dec/Jan goes. Very few actually bid for Thanksgiving in my category, hope it helped other categories more.
10-14-2023, 10:32 AM
#5304
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 859
Of course we'll have to wait and see, but anecdotally the pilots I've talked with cared more about the EOY holidays than the previous two we went through. Further, many senior pilots' strategy was to bid off to be able to GS on those days, and Holiday Pay would not really change that strategy.
10-14-2023, 10:46 AM
#5305
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,828
Of course we'll have to wait and see, but anecdotally the pilots I've talked with cared more about the EOY holidays than the previous two we went through. Further, many senior pilots' strategy was to bid off to be able to GS on those days, and Holiday Pay would not really change that strategy.
10-14-2023, 10:50 AM
#5306
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2023
Posts: 31
Since we're talking these last two holidays of the year, how could LCP availability over Christmas and New Year's affect someone who might need IOE in December?
10-14-2023, 10:57 AM
#5307
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Big ones
Posts: 772
agree. Nov A wides just came out so it’s a good day to check and see what seniority got thanksgiving off in your favorite category. Rough future extrapolation could be 3% for next year. BWYW etc etc
10-14-2023, 11:47 AM
#5309
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,802
To add to that, even some of the senior LCAs bid trips over the holidays. My first trip on OE was with a senior LCA who bid a Christmas trip. His kids are out of the house/spread across the country, so they did their Christmas early. He bid trip with a 24 hours layover on Christmas day so he and his wife could have a nice getaway. Lucky for me, the OE scheduler snuffed this trip out and dropped me into it lol.
10-14-2023, 12:02 PM
#5310
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,792
It sure affected 320 A in a positive way for Thanksgiving next month…. My guess is Christmas Eve, Christmas, and NYE will be very junior until I stacked, line or reserve this year. Good for everyone….
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