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Old 10-11-2023, 12:29 PM
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there’s no line. I wish everyone to enjoy themselves. I’m simply pushing back against HK’s contention that 2000-8000 seniority pilots would do “so much better” on a WB and how they cannot understand people making a different decision.
I was using historical Delta SL master SL percentages and extrapolating for the number of pilots we have on the list today. The historical majority WB B group lies within that 2000-8000 number extrapolated for our total number of SL pilots today. Not making this **** up, I've got all the lists going back 30 years. Your issue is you think you know it all, you don't. You're still very new here. Maybe open up your apeture a bit, dial down some of the hate and you might just learn something or at least have an "I didn't know that" moment or 2.
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Old 10-11-2023, 12:45 PM
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International flying works for me. I sleep well on any break and on layovers. I don’t even need a recovery day at home. When I get back home I’ll go to bed early around 830-9 and wake up the next morning feeling great. I don’t know how guys do it that never sleep on break or sleep well on layovers.
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Old 10-11-2023, 01:28 PM
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First break coming back from Europe is also my favorite. Watch movie, eat lunch, nap, WINNING!

If your European pickup time is 10am or later then try and stay up the night before until 11pm-12am. That brings me more success at quickly falling back asleep after the usual 2am-3am middle of the night wake up.
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Old 10-11-2023, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I was using historical Delta SL master SL percentages and extrapolating for the number of pilots we have on the list today. The historical majority WB B group lies within that 2000-8000 number extrapolated for our total number of SL pilots today. Not making this **** up, I've got all the lists going back 30 years. Your issue is you think you know it all, you don't. You're still very new here. Maybe open up your apeture a bit, dial down some of the hate and you might just learn something or at least have an "I didn't know that" moment or 2.
At nearly 17,000 pilots today, that would mean WB B used to take better than 50% to hold. Which is demonstrably false. Since the Merger, WB B plug has been over 10,XXX, which is more like 80%.

So, take that "you are still very new here" crap back to Chit Chat. We don't play their kinds of games here. Your issue is you think you know it all, you don't. I don't care how long you've been here. Maybe stop being so condescending, dial down some of the hate (ironic), and you might just get some respect, or at least admit "I didn't know that (I screwed up math)."

Oh, and OOfff ain't new, much less very new.
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Old 10-11-2023, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I was using historical Delta SL master SL percentages and extrapolating for the number of pilots we have on the list today. The historical majority WB B group lies within that 2000-8000 number extrapolated for our total number of SL pilots today. Not making this **** up, I've got all the lists going back 30 years. Your issue is you think you know it all, you don't. You're still very new here. Maybe open up your apeture a bit, dial down some of the hate and you might just learn something or at least have an "I didn't know that" moment or 2.
as someone in that range of seniority, I’d personally make less money and enjoy my job far less being a WB-B. So open up YOUR aperture and realize that other people want different things than you. I certainly wouldn’t do “so much better,” but your closed mind cannot comprehend such a thing
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Old 10-11-2023, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by igotgummed
Remember this quote on your 2hr bus ride in Paris after you didn’t sleep all night since you had 1st break goin over. Or the 2-4hr ride in Lagos when it’s storm season.

As for the bunk…..get yourself a cheap camping blow up mattress from Amazon. Game changer.
A blow up mattress is a game changer. But don’t get a cheap one for $40. Get a good one and your body will thank you for not being a cheap pilot. My recommendation is the Nemo Tensor regular wide (25x72). Several guys use it on the 350. Well worth it for $138. Cheap ones have a lumpy, uneven feel and are prone to leaks and make noise when you roll.

Currently at the lowest price on REI and Amazon that it’s been for some time.
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Old 10-11-2023, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
At nearly 17,000 pilots today, that would mean WB B used to take better than 50% to hold. Which is demonstrably false. Since the Merger, WB B plug has been over 10,XXX, which is more like 80%.

So, take that "you are still very new here" crap back to Chit Chat. We don't play their kinds of games here. Your issue is you think you know it all, you don't. I don't care how long you've been here. Maybe stop being so condescending, dial down some of the hate (ironic), and you might just get some respect, or at least admit "I didn't know that (I screwed up math)."

Oh, and OOfff ain't new, much less very new.
Ooff is new compared to me and others here. Wait, how would you know? You an alt? Well looking at the SL from 1995. In 1995 WB B plug was sitting about 50%. Where were you in 1995?

I don't know what chit chat is BTW. Stop trying to silo me there. You're not the first (Oofff, CBreezy and others have tried the same).
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Old 10-11-2023, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Ooff is new compared to me and others here. Wait, how would you know? You an alt? Well looking at the SL from 1995. In 1995 WB B plug was sitting about 50%. Where were you in 1995?

I don't know what chit chat is BTW. Stop trying to silo me there. You're not the first (Oofff, CBreezy and others have tried the same).
the point isn’t whether you have an old seniority list, it’s that your statement that people between 2000-8000 would do “so much better” working the way you prefer rather than recognizing that a diverse group have diverse desires.
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Old 10-11-2023, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
as someone in that range of seniority, I’d personally make less money and enjoy my job far less being a WB-B. So open up YOUR aperture and realize that other people want different things than you. I certainly wouldn’t do “so much better,” but your closed mind cannot comprehend such a thing
I fully understand that. the NB fleets schedules will continue to deteriorate, they are going to squeeze every bit of duty period and block out of those fleets. they've reprogrammed the optimizer based on what they found in C19. It's going to get worse. You do whatever you want. I don't care. I'm just posting this out there so those reading can make informed decisions.
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Old 10-11-2023, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I fully understand that. the NB fleets schedules will continue to deteriorate, they are going to squeeze every bit of duty period and block out of those fleets. they've reprogrammed the optimizer based on what they found in C19. It's going to get worse. You do whatever you want. I don't care. I'm just posting this out there so those reading can make informed decisions.
I don't think you understand how the optimizer really works and its relationship to soft pay.
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