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Old 10-06-2023, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
That's pretty close to best case scenario. You were 26 and hired near the beginning of a wave. I might be misreading your tone, but you sound like you're bragging when you really got lucky. Not taking away from your hard work to get hired at 26, but nobody gets to choose when the wave happens.
Not really. I spent my first 5 years on reserve at the bottom of the list. I wouldn’t call that being hired at beginning of wave. Thanks to age 65 and the great recession. Could be worse. I managed to stay employed. The massive movement didn’t really happen until the last 2 years.
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Old 10-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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To all my fellow delta commuters in the St Pete area…

help me find a good AME, please? Or at least ones known to avoid? New in these parts and don’t really want another astronaut physical.

thanks in advance.. I’ll hang up now and listen

pS - yes I checked search function here and elsewhere.. nothing nearly current for this area
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Old 10-06-2023, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
you just sort of described my progression except that it took 32 years to crash the top 1000.

Oh, and I was around 7900 when I was hired, and still not much better after 10 years. Mergers and recessions do that.
I thought we hired like 4,000 between 96 and 01? Did we not have many retirements?

My projection is 29 years without a merger. If that happens who knows how it will shake out.
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Old 10-06-2023, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dbo863
To be fair, anyone hired today at AA or United will see similar progression.
AA should be quite a bit better. Not as amazing as a few years ago but they have more retirements and have hired far fewer over the past 10 years
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
It’s so hard to get any kind of tone across on this board, whether it be sarcasm or condescension, but 007 has it down. Everything I read that he has written in my head has a snarky tone. 🤣
he’s not alone on that. And to be fair, he usually doesn’t start it from what I’ve seen. Anyway, it looks like the LCA train on the 320>7er based on the ae. Further, does anybody guess the over/under when the 7ER fleet reverts to 757 like the good old days.
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Old 10-07-2023, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Not really. I spent my first 5 years on reserve at the bottom of the list. I wouldn’t call that being hired at beginning of wave. Thanks to age 65 and the great recession. Could be worse. I managed to stay employed. The massive movement didn’t really happen until the last 2 years.
Wow, hired at 26 and will have the opportunity to bid non plug captain seat anywhere in the company for 17 years, but you “had” to sit reserve for 5 years.

The massive movement you say didn’t happen? If I’m reading your timeline correctly I’m junior to you, and I moved up 2-3000 numbers prior to 2020, so if you sat plug somewhere you did that voluntarily.

Do you find that the other pilots you fly with read or look out the window a lot? Because you come across as someone who’d complain about the taxes on your lottery winnings. I’m not saying this is you but this is exactly as you come across.
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Old 10-07-2023, 11:42 AM
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Wow, hired at 26 and will have the opportunity to bid non plug captain seat anywhere in the company for 17 years, but you “had” to sit reserve for 5 years.

The massive movement you say didn’t happen? If I’m reading your timeline correctly I’m junior to you, and I moved up 2-3000 numbers prior to 2020, so if you sat plug somewhere you did that voluntarily.

Do you find that the other pilots you fly with read or look out the window a lot? Because you come across as someone who’d complain about the taxes on your lottery winnings. I’m not saying this is you but this is exactly as you come across.
2007 hires were pretty junior until hiring resumed in earnest in 2014.

hockey was probably in or near the bottom 1,000 for 7 years.
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Old 10-07-2023, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
2007 hires were pretty junior until hiring resumed in earnest in 2014.

hockey was probably in or near the bottom 1,000 for 7 years.
2007 hires were indeed very Junior for a long time. Multiple displacements, Years on reserve. Those who grabbed the first upgrade available spent more years in the bottom 10% in bes, only to be displaced again during Covid back to the right seat. Only in the last 2-3 years has the Seniority train left the station. 07’s might be within reach of 330a later next year, but few will pull the trigger only to be right back at the bottom of bes again…for years & years.
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Old 10-07-2023, 05:58 PM
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I was thinking hockey is a 2016ish hire.
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Old 10-07-2023, 07:35 PM
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I was thinking hockey is a 2016ish hire.
Not if he was forced to be on reserve for 5 years. Probably an 07 hire.
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