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Old 09-22-2023, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
67 does nothing for us if they can't fly internationally. Are you going to train in the last 2 years for a downgrade? NO.
Company might make people to do it. How many times we’ve seen they sending pilots asking for Bypass to training? I’m sure it will be a way to make people “retire early at 65”.
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Old 09-22-2023, 11:53 AM
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67 isn’t designed to do anything for “us.” We are an afterthought behind politicians being seen as having done something.
The failure and sick rate will go up and the wait for sim reschedules will grind the department to a halt as guys avoid the pay cut for any reason.

"us" = air lines/airlines
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Old 09-22-2023, 11:59 AM
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Anyone have a time line on the age 67 bill? Are they voting on it before the end of this month or do they have longer? I can’t find any info online
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
if you’re not qualified to fly a trip, you get removed without pay. That will solve a lot of problems pretty quickly
We can watch how the Chinese Visa mandate plays out. The scheduled increase in China service coincides with a more intrusive Visa process. The company position is that pilots must bid out if they can't get the Visa. Enforcement will provide insight for 67.
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Company might make people to do it. How many times we’ve seen they sending pilots asking for Bypass to training? I’m sure it will be a way to make people “retire early at 65”.
I recall the break even was 18-24 months on training bypasses, that's part of the reason for the VEOP it was said. Younger guys on the bigger airplanes was going to be more cost effective than back flushing the seniority system.
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
We can watch how the Chinese Visa mandate plays out. The scheduled increase in China service coincides with a more intrusive Visa process. The company position is that pilots must bid out if they can't get the Visa. Enforcement will provide insight for 67.
I understand that many people are balking at providing such detailed info to the Chinese government, but are there cases where someone who fully fills out the application gets denied? Are they just out of luck/forced to bid off?
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Old 09-22-2023, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
I understand that many people are balking at providing such detailed info to the Chinese government, but are there cases where someone who fully fills out the application gets denied? Are they just out of luck/forced to bid off?
thus is how 2014 hires get WB-A in late 2023. (to get back on topic
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Old 09-22-2023, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyEight
It will pass. If people think the USA has a problem staffing airlines, imagine not having a USAF, USN and USA pumping out thousands of pilots a year, PLUS all the six-figure flight academies. This will be one of many tools to bridge the gap for developing nations, along with R-ATP, more sophisticated WB's with only two pilots, etc.



The last time the USA, Europe, Japan and Germany (which had sanctions against it) were in a depression there was an attempt to rebalance the power. This time is no different and it is Russia with the sanctions and BRICS+ attempting to rebalance the power. China's economy is toast, Russia, according to the media, is in a stalemate and North Korea is starving. Despite China's economic woes, their petroleum imports are at an all-time high. Russia's economy is suffering, their only real trade is petroleum, half of which is refined. They just stopped exporting refined crude... Chew on that. This could all be coincidence, or it looks exactly like Japan in the late 1930s stockpiling petroleum for a throwdown.



I am with you, the next one will be very swift- under 40 minutes. There is a disturbing case for career progression if the world descends into global conflict. You can bet every officer retired within the past 10 years or under the age of 55 will be called back to active duty, likely gutting half the seniority list and WB-A trends lower flying high-risk CRAF mission in contested airspace. Those under a certain age will likely be drafted.

The SPR is at a record low and I often times wonder if the Russians have just been using apartment buildings in Ukraine to function test their zircon cruise missiles. I would imagine any opening salvo will at least have conventional ICBMs dropping munitions all over the handful of refineries we do have, with oil rigs and shipping ports getting the same. This is a pretty negative path, but I have never seen Arleigh Burk destroyers camped off SAN, LAX, HNL, MIA and in the GOM. RIM-156A?

Back to thinking about dry wine and layover shoes.
So many conspiracies and so much bad information.
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Old 09-22-2023, 01:49 PM
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CrazyEight needs to change his/her name to SectionEight.
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Old 09-22-2023, 02:14 PM
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CrazyEight needs to change his/her name to SectionEight.
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