Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
09-09-2023, 07:14 AM
#4651
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As much as I look forward to the impending mid month sample AE bid, I philosophically wonder if it even matters? Does it change habit patterns? Has anybody changed anything based on it and if they had, are the numbers that have statistically relevant? Percentage bidders will always percentage bid and all or nothings will do the same thing. Why do we need a practice run. I like it, because it is fun to see what it might be, but by the time it’s posted everything has changed.
They don’t take turnover concerns into affect with the mock award, which will always make a difference. But still, I like to see the mock because it does give a general idea on where you stand I think, even if it is a little off. If you are half way up the list on the mock then odds are very high you’ll be good for the final
09-09-2023, 07:25 AM
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For the rest of the pilots out there who don't know, you can just put in a percentage bid and not need to worry about the practice bids.
09-09-2023, 07:34 AM
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Yeah, thanks. No actually, they are somewhat junior and didn't think they could hold NB A in their desired base until they saw people on the prelim below them getting it, so they figured what the hell. Actually heard quite a few stories like this lately around the schoolhouse.
09-09-2023, 07:46 AM
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Yeah, thanks. No actually, they are somewhat junior and didn't think they could hold NB A in their desired base until they saw people on the prelim below them getting it, so they figured what the hell. Actually heard quite a few stories like this lately around the schoolhouse.
09-09-2023, 07:48 AM
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Yeah, thanks. No actually, they are somewhat junior and didn't think they could hold NB A in their desired base until they saw people on the prelim below them getting it, so they figured what the hell. Actually heard quite a few stories like this lately around the schoolhouse.
That's kinda my point, bid what you want, not what you think you can hold. Put in your bid (with % if you want) and let them ride. Pre-rona, we had dudes whining that they couldn't hold ATL320A (to name just one), even though there were pilots well junior to them in the seat, who slipped onto the seat during an AE that went crazy junior. Then there was a ridiculously long drought on those position and/or they went senior for a long time after. This wouldn't have been an issue if they simply had a bid in.
09-09-2023, 07:50 AM
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That's kinda my point, bid what you want, not what you think you can hold. Put in your bid (with % if you want) and let them ride. Pre-rona, we had dudes whining that they couldn't hold ATL320A (to name just one), even though there were pilots well junior to them in the seat, who slipped onto the seat during an AE that went crazy junior. Then there was a ridiculously long drought on those position and/or they went senior for a long time after. This wouldn't have been an issue if they simply had a bid in.
News flash. The kids don't care about tradition. They do what they want and what's best for them. Groundbreaking.
09-09-2023, 08:13 AM
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BWYWWWYB. Also, commuting is a choice that the company prefers you don't do. Oh, and the company owns the jumpseat. Oh, and the military produces the best pilots and recruiting your squadron mates is the best way to broaden the ranks. Oh, and we're better than the average airline pilot. Any other Delta stereotypes of old that we missed?
News flash. The kids don't care about tradition. They do what they want and what's best for them. Groundbreaking.
News flash. The kids don't care about tradition. They do what they want and what's best for them. Groundbreaking.
Unless you don’t actually want it, which is covered in the WWYB.
And we are the bestest air line pilots, the sign says so.
09-09-2023, 08:14 AM
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I flew with a guy on the ER who told me letting people commute on the jump seat was “unprofessional” and another tell me not to worry about the booking timeline on the JS and “just have your wife book it (never asked if I was married, which I wasn’t)
09-09-2023, 08:21 AM
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BWYWWWYB. Also, commuting is a choice that the company prefers you don't do. Oh, and the company owns the jumpseat. Oh, and the military produces the best pilots and recruiting your squadron mates is the best way to broaden the ranks. Oh, and we're better than the average airline pilot. Any other Delta stereotypes of old that we missed?
Getting worked up and bringing unrelated topics to the conversation?
Is a standing bid now considered tradition? Also, wouldn't "what's best for them," be not missing out on a bid they wanted, because they didn't think they could hold something?
09-09-2023, 08:38 AM
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It's not that. Based on what they're saying, they were 320B guys who didn't have things like 73NA or 717A on their radar until they saw they could hold it with seniority and lowered their standards. Especially since WB B is trending more senior now. A lot of those guys who were holding out for WB are saying hell with it and throwing in a bid for NB A.
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