PilotBases

I’d shoot from the hip and say NYC sees growth next year as the D1 equipped 321s get delivered. That will drive a large increase in 320 departures from Kennedy.

FangsF15

22.E.10 says, “If no pilot bids on a First Officer category vacancy, the Company may assign an entry level pilot to fill the vacancy.”

Vacancy is not defined in section 2 or the front of section 22, but it does not say “contingent vacancies” may go to NH’s. My understanding is that only posted vacancies can go to a NH?

CBreezy

A pilot who leaves their position because of an AE creates a vacancy. They are permitted to not backfill them at their discretion but if they want to create new hire, there have to be positions unbid including those whose positions were vacated and unbid.

Trip7

I think Flex gets over the line here as many hold out due to the high risk of Xmas on Virginia Ave

tennisguru

CBreezy's post above is correct. A vacancy is a vacancy whether created by the company or by secondary (or tertiary, etc) movement. That's why we've been seeing so much NYC for new hires as these monthly bids have kicked off. Everyone bails from NYC to their desired base ASAP, leaving huge holes in NYC, which then get offered to the next few classes until the next AE restarts the process all over again.

Secondary vacancies are how the first new hires got DTW 350 a year or two ago. An AE had 0 DTW 350B positions, but due to secondaries there were 10-15 DTW 350B spots available that no one bid for (or no one with a bid in was eligible due to seat locks or bid qualifiers). Then everyone was shocked when new hires got DTW 350B with no positions posted on the previous AE. But that is how the process correctly plays out. Hence why if you really want a particular positions, make sure you bid it even if the AE has 0 postings in that position because there are almost always secondary positions in nearly every category each AE.

FangsF15

I guess I missed (or forgot) the first bold, not that the NH’s got 350’s, but that the positions came from from 0 posted vacancies. I stand corrected.

The second bold is often repeated, yet so many people fail to realize it. ALWAYS BWYWWWYB.

FlexManFlex

Heck I’m think 12XXX this time around and it’s December training. I got a lot of confidence this time around. The last AE had 11X hit DTW330 and there weren’t any openings so this time with 9… I’m thinking it’ll be a celebration for us junior folks! I’ll include all of you in my acceptance speech. Thanks for the love and support for Flexy! I know it’s silly but for someone who has been dreaming of flying over the North Atlantic their whole life, it’s pretty exciting

Nantonaku

In the past they didn’t train on Xmas. Do they now?

myrkridia

You're bidding both but you hoping more for 330 or 350? #FlexGoFlex

FangsF15

No training on Christmas Day.