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Old 08-18-2023, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
If we are all good on landings, and no one has any demands, I use my coin flipping app. Flip for leg over then flip for the leg back.

There’s an app for that?
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Old 08-18-2023, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
There’s an app for that?
What's a "coin"
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Old 08-18-2023, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
What's a "coin"
A form of digital currency
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Old 08-18-2023, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
As a WB B I never landed outside the U.S. (except 1 landing on TOE) I flew a lot of back seat on 3 man trips as I was usually the junior or reserve/third add on. I never felt at the top of my game in the 767 due to infrequent legs. (adequate but not as comfortable as in the 757) I enjoyed the trips exploring, until I didn't. After the 3rd or 4th time to a city and getting to the regular spots the motivation to get out waned and the sleep became paramount. I left and will happily stay NBA bidding reserve. Just my $.02. I can't imagine the ultra long stuff spilt up by 4 pilots. Good luck, I hope the old Delta standard of A gets foreign and senior B gets U.S. has changed.
Maybe I’m weird but I just don’t care about landing in an international spot or the states. I don’t fly a traditional widebody like 330/350 but is it that hard to get a landing in a different airport with the 6-9 day rotations? Do they ALL care to get their landings in Europe and Asia? I’m curiously asking too, not trying to come off as a rhetorical question.

Either way - yeah after you do it for a few times it seems like it does wear off. Becomes about sleep and more so good food/restaurants and change of scenery away from home. That’s about all I notice now until I get a spot I’ve never been to.

I’d be content just bidding LHR for Chelsea games and Paris for food. But I am a great creature of habit, so it doesn’t seem to wear much. Maybe in 5 years I’m curious to see my tone
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Old 08-18-2023, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Maybe I’m weird but I just don’t care about landing in an international spot or the states. I don’t fly a traditional widebody like 330/350 but is it that hard to get a landing in a different airport with the 6-9 day rotations? Do they ALL care to get their landings in Europe and Asia? I’m curiously asking too, not trying to come off as a rhetorical question.

Either way - yeah after you do it for a few times it seems like it does wear off. Becomes about sleep and more so good food/restaurants and change of scenery away from home. That’s about all I notice now until I get a spot I’ve never been to.

I’d be content just bidding LHR for Chelsea games and Paris for food. But I am a great creature of habit, so it doesn’t seem to wear much. Maybe in 5 years I’m curious to see my tone
I rarely flew long rotations. The only ones I recall are the old Narita trips but once you were in Japan it was 757s. My bid pack was limited and mostly 3 days to LHR, CDG, AMS. I did some ICN and China but never landed there. Just my experience.
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Old 08-18-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I rarely flew long rotations. The only ones I recall are the old Narita trips but once you were in Japan it was 757s. My bid pack was limited and mostly 3 days to LHR, CDG, AMS. I did some ICN and China but never landed there. Just my experience.
yeah seems like the 3 days would be hard to get landings in
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Old 08-18-2023, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter432
I don't get why this is a thing here at mother D (at least on the ER in ATL). Other places I worked at this wasn't the case. They actually trusted the FO to land in a place outside of the US ha. I too have had it only a few times where the captain didn't care and actually gave us the option to get all the landings. Both Captains were NYC in my sample data (thanks fellas).
I think it’s less about trusting the FOs and more to do with getting the prime break slot. Just my opinion
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Old 08-18-2023, 12:27 PM
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I think it’s less about trusting the FOs and more to do with getting the prime break slot. Just my opinion
…and avoiding recency sims at all costs.
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…and avoiding recency sims at all costs.
So I just did a recency sim. The trick is to get in before you go unqualified, so make sure you proactively try to get it scheduled. The sim is sooooo easy, 1 LOC approach, 2 ILS and a CATIII, that's it. I literally landed in ATL at 1pm got to the sim at 130, no briefing, and was out of the sim at 2pm and got on the 310pm flight home.
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
A few times it was like pulling teeth to get them(FO's) to commit to taking a leg at all.

And, I always said I didn't care what leg I was gonna fly as one 10K piece of concrete looked very similar to another 10K piece of concrete.
as you aptly highlight here....

Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE
So I just did a recency sim. The trick is to get in before you go unqualified, so make sure you proactively try to get it scheduled. The sim is sooooo easy, 1 LOC approach, 2 ILS and a CATIII, that's it. I literally landed in ATL at 1pm got to the sim at 130, no briefing, and was out of the sim at 2pm and got on the 310pm flight home.
There is no black and white answer to choices and what pilots feel are in their best interest.
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