Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
08-12-2023, 03:35 PM
#4231
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*Note* I was an iCrewMax user, and was genuinely beaked when DL shut their access. I'm not defending the ouster. I just see them as two totally different issues.
And if DC retiree's actually do get unfettered access, this really is a moo issue.
08-12-2023, 03:44 PM
#4232
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My point is Curly was once privy to ALL the information he uses for his site without restriction, and had his site up and running for years with DL's full knowledge/blessing. He's not an outside/3rd party company trying to piggy back, or more critically tunnel in to DL's servers.
*Note* I was an iCrewMax user, and was genuinely beaked when DL shut their access. I'm not defending the ouster. I just see them as two totally different issues.
And if DC retiree's actually do get unfettered access, this really is a moo issue.
*Note* I was an iCrewMax user, and was genuinely beaked when DL shut their access. I'm not defending the ouster. I just see them as two totally different issues.
And if DC retiree's actually do get unfettered access, this really is a moo issue.
08-12-2023, 04:23 PM
#4233
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I'm not sure why this is such a big deal? Seriously, we have 16,000+ pilots on the seniority list with the exact same access to... Your Name and DOB. I mean, CJO holders not yet on property get access to it for crying out loud.
08-12-2023, 04:33 PM
#4234
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there is no provision for a retired pilot to make money using ostensibly protected personal data, nor should there be. but by golly, we'll need to use an 8 digit passcode to protect...something.
08-12-2023, 11:02 PM
#4235
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curly is not on the seniority list and probably 5000 pilots have been hired since he left, which he never would have had access to. Defending this kind of corporate hypocrisy and data mining is troubling.
there is no provision for a retired pilot to make money using ostensibly protected personal data, nor should there be. but by golly, we'll need to use an 8 digit passcode to protect...something.
there is no provision for a retired pilot to make money using ostensibly protected personal data, nor should there be. but by golly, we'll need to use an 8 digit passcode to protect...something.
the guy likes the excel sheets and getting different views of the data. Hes not taking the money and buying an island either, in 15 years i doubt itll be around.
I dont wanna have to program all that on excel like i did the previous company. Just relax about this **** youre gonna end up making a load of work for me.
08-13-2023, 08:45 AM
#4236
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if WS gives me bad data the worst that happens is I screw up my bid and that’s a me problem. If oak notes gives me bad data and I screw up that happens in a DL flight deck and that’s a DL problem and leaves the door wide open for them wrt liability. That’s why the double standard.
So not sure how it is going to happen as you describe. I would say let's test it. Shouldn't take long to see how accurate reliable and robust his stuff is. Id wager it would pass any rigorous tests with flying colors as again he's simply harvesting data direct from Miss+ But we can't have good things like that so let's kill it. And then there was iCrewMax.... good stuff but again, deemed inappropriate for our use for some silly reason
08-13-2023, 08:53 AM
#4237
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Oops this is the AE thread
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08-13-2023, 11:31 AM
#4238
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curly is not on the seniority list and probably 5000 pilots have been hired since he left, which he never would have had access to. Defending this kind of corporate hypocrisy and data mining is troubling.
there is no provision for a retired pilot to make money using ostensibly protected personal data, nor should there be. but by golly, we'll need to use an 8 digit passcode to protect...something.
there is no provision for a retired pilot to make money using ostensibly protected personal data, nor should there be. but by golly, we'll need to use an 8 digit passcode to protect...something.
Why are people trying to create a problem where there isn’t one?
08-13-2023, 01:08 PM
#4239
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Because John Bell developed and distributed a product that helped all of us, for free, and the company stomped him, but good old boy Curly, who gets special favors because he knows where the bodies are buried, gets access to our names, employment date, birthday, and job position, which he sells to anyone who pays him, including possibly identity thieves, and the company quietly hands him the data and looks the other way. Sounds like Delta could be equally liable if that data is ever used for nefarious purposes.
08-13-2023, 01:14 PM
#4240
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Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
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Just one more example of big D's hypocrisy. Pilots - pro Bell. Company - pro Curls. Now about the AE, who's gonna have the break down first?
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