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crewdawg 08-11-2023 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3680972)
DTW was the golden child on the two bids last fall. It’s interesting to me that they seem to focus on one or two bases at a time. It’s almost like BS can’t walk and chew gum(m) at the same time.


I don't think it's BS, I think it's marketing, BS is just at the end of the whip. However, it seems like the smaller/frequent bids would cause bids to be spread out more evenly throughout the bases. I'm not really complaining, I'm happy right where I am, it's just crazy that in a base of it's size, they can only muster up a few NB B spots likely designed for newhires and zero A spots. Same can be said for SEA.



Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3680973)
If they award them. See BS note already mentioned above.


It's crazy that they can simply choose not to award stuff they post. This is truly why you want to bid what you want and be dang sure you have % qualifiers in your bid.

Also of note, the comment about how many people are pulling out of training. I can't say I'm surprised that there are lots of people fishing for a bypass, even after repeated notices that they will not bypass. I wouldn't really trust them either.

Abouttime2fish 08-11-2023 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by FlexManFlex (Post 3680947)
25 A330B openings - 9 ATL, 16 MSP
35 A330A openings - 15 ATL, 10 NYC, 10 MSP
18 A350A openings - 8 LAX, 10 ATL

This is big time. A330B will probably hit 11XXX this time. Also, training would be in November with OE in December. That’ll help junior folks too!

I dont even know why they are making you wait. BS should pick up the phone and personally congratulate you today!

Good luck!

Big E 757 08-11-2023 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3680976)
Those poor plug 765Bs. No backfills again by the looks of it. Gonna be junior a long time.

I’m very surprised how few WB B’s are being offered/awarded. I’m not gunning for one, but the Flex saga has sucked me in and now his plight is at the forefront of my consciousness. 🤣🤣🤣

#SaveFlex

FL370esq 08-11-2023 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3680980)
Also of note, the comment about how many people are pulling out of training. I can't say I'm surprised that there are lots of people fishing for a bypass, even after repeated notices that they will not bypass. I wouldn't really trust them either.

I got a laugh out of that bold printed part of the memo because I am sure a vast majority of the 11.G.7 "issues" stem from pilots merely floating an AE bid in hopes of getting a training bypass. If they get it, great. If they don't, they invoke 11.G.7 and are seat frozen for their last 24 months at Delta. No harm, no foul, to them.

Scooter432 08-11-2023 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3680193)
Yeah, I knew the answer when I wrote it. I love my current plane and qol on the 717 but the pay difference is getting hard to overlook. My wife says no, but $30/hour says yes.

It adds up. I can't believe it didn't get banded up.

crewdawg 08-11-2023 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Scooter432 (Post 3681000)
It adds up. I can't believe it didn't get banded up.


When you look at all the other provisions that didn't do anything for the 717, it starts to make sense, but not cents. You can see the boot marks on the backs of the 717. Funny enough, there was even a comment in the AE announcement about how they're seeing "higher than planned turnover," on the 717.

Mesabah 08-11-2023 08:21 AM

The 717 FO's are usually the ones who had low SSNs, got stuck in ATL or DTW, and live in another Delta base.

JamesBond 08-11-2023 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Scooter432 (Post 3681000)
It adds up. I can't believe it didn't get banded up.

You DO understand the reason don't you? Hint: the very same reason the -ER didn't get banned up.

myrkridia 08-11-2023 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3680980)
It's crazy that they can simply choose not to award stuff they post. This is truly why you want to bid what you want and be dang sure you have % qualifiers in your bid.

Also of note, the comment about how many people are pulling out of training. I can't say I'm surprised that there are lots of people fishing for a bypass, even after repeated notices that they will not bypass. I wouldn't really trust them either.

Maybe they are overshooting the A positions hoping to account for those that are fishing for a bypass, but hedging their bet by saying they may not award or delay some of those positions.

FangsF15 08-11-2023 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3680976)
Those poor plug 765Bs. No backfills again by the looks of it. Gonna be junior a long time.

That was always going to be the case though.


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