Train after junior
 

Is it possible to adjust a bid to train after junior after the bid comes out? If so, who would be a POC?
Thanks. First bid (MD) in 11 hrs.

I don't think so..but I think MDs convert in inverse seniority order if I'm remembering correctly. So junior pilots would go first anyway?

Simply put, no. Can't pull out of a "train after junior" either.

However, MD and AE training/conversion lists are separate from each other. An MD cannot look to the AE list and say "Hey, that junior pilot with an AE is converting after me " Sometimes they move the MDs through training/conversions first and sometimes they move them through last.

Didn't we just sign an awesome contract that fixed all that?

Cautiously optimistic there will be some change in September bid packet. Lots of good scheduling items being implemented then. Hopefully there is a positive change and not too much unintended consequences.

yet the 220 is the senior A jet in SLC.

We did (well, not all that, but a lot). But it will take time for the masses to see, and trust that the changes are real and persistent. We can revisit this thought in a year or so…

Haven't past contracts also come with implementation cycles where not everything is effective on DOS? Was this contract an anomaly in that respect?

Yes, if you go back to the pre-Covid category lists, company-wide junior A was 79%.

WB B was slightly more senior on balance, with the exception of NYC 765 (which had a handful (like ~9 pilots) slightly junior to that, entirely due to the uncommutable 2-day transcons which showed up in the winter of 2016, and permanently in 2017. I was on it, and lived that reality personally).

I have said we will go back toward that balance on a system seniority basis (overall %).

There are some variables yet to be felt, like a WB order to replace the 767-300’s, and a demographic shift (a large number of NB B’s have seen their seniority rise meteorically over the last couple of years, so instead of taking forever to rise to 20% seniority in category, and by then many bail to the left seat or WB B, these senior NB B's find themselves suddenly launched there, with all of the trappings that go with that. I think we may see a larger number (than historical) decide to camp out and enjoy super senior NB B for a while. 🤷‍♂️)