Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
12-15-2022, 11:22 AM
#381
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I am curious how junior NB A slots will go, given the pay banding for WB B. Last AE didnt have a plethora of NB A slots but because of all of the backfilling it went stupid junior. If it closes before the TA language is out, will NB A bid WB B or hope that narrow body trips get addressed significantly enough to stay put? Seems like a gamble considering the pay rates are much more specifically spelled out in the AIP as opposed to a vague point about improvements in rotation construction.
Would any NB As like to chime in with their thoughts?
Would any NB As like to chime in with their thoughts?
12-15-2022, 03:41 PM
#382
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Agree with above. I’m senior NB B, waiting to see what happens with AIP rotation construction language before moving anywhere.
I’d love to move to A, but not gonna do it for crappy 3-5 day trips.
Some 1-2 day trips would be nice…oh wait, that’s about 3% of the whole bid package. 🤯🤦♂️🤣
I’d love to move to A, but not gonna do it for crappy 3-5 day trips.
Some 1-2 day trips would be nice…oh wait, that’s about 3% of the whole bid package. 🤯🤦♂️🤣
12-15-2022, 04:44 PM
#383
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I really wouldn’t expect anything very large because of the impending seat locks that will be up in subsequent AE (making a early large bid useless), impending AIP turning into a contract, and they won’t want to shake things up aggressively with a Jan bid that will mess up the summer staffing.
just my 2c on top of what was told to ys.
To the discussion about people moving to WB’s, don’t forget the 330/350 growth in next 18-24 months. It’s pretty decent. On top of retirements in WB A category. There is still going to be a lot of openings for people to bid to and not every senior NB B is chasing the pay scale carrot. QOL triumphs that. Think this forum puts too much energy into every pilot on the next AE bids the same way I do…
12-15-2022, 04:48 PM
#384
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Speaking with many senior Bs they are waiting for the language to be released in order to make a decision.
With that being said I think with the movement we have going anyone with a year on property should be able to hold narrow body A.
With that being said I think with the movement we have going anyone with a year on property should be able to hold narrow body A.
12-15-2022, 04:52 PM
#385
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In base meetings Bob said it would be similar size to last bid.
I really wouldn’t expect anything very large because of the impending seat locks that will be up in subsequent AE (making a early large bid useless), impending AIP turning into a contract, and they won’t want to shake things up aggressively with a Jan bid that will mess up the summer staffing.
just my 2c on top of what was told to ys.
To the discussion about people moving to WB’s, don’t forget the 330/350 growth in next 18-24 months. It’s pretty decent. On top of retirements in WB A category. There is still going to be a lot of openings for people to bid to and not every senior NB B is chasing the pay scale carrot. QOL triumphs that. Think this forum puts too much energy into every pilot on the next AE bids the same way I do…
I really wouldn’t expect anything very large because of the impending seat locks that will be up in subsequent AE (making a early large bid useless), impending AIP turning into a contract, and they won’t want to shake things up aggressively with a Jan bid that will mess up the summer staffing.
just my 2c on top of what was told to ys.
To the discussion about people moving to WB’s, don’t forget the 330/350 growth in next 18-24 months. It’s pretty decent. On top of retirements in WB A category. There is still going to be a lot of openings for people to bid to and not every senior NB B is chasing the pay scale carrot. QOL triumphs that. Think this forum puts too much energy into every pilot on the next AE bids the same way I do…
12-15-2022, 04:59 PM
#386
Roll’n Thunder
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Also, assuming the AIP eliminates the 365 bid, they may want one more bite at that apple before it gets eliminated, probably tied in to finishing the drawdown of the SEA 7ER category.
12-15-2022, 05:06 PM
#387
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It doesn’t make sense because all you’re going to do is have massive unbid positions and stuff going super junior and conversions/training in the middle or during summer. I don’t see any logical reason to do any of that. Especially with an impending displacement after the summer.
12-15-2022, 05:07 PM
#388
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Have not heard anything about elimination of a 365 day bid. Where is this news coming from? Wasn’t in bullets
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