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07-21-2023, 12:00 PM

#3851

WiscoWisco

New Hire

Joined APC: Aug 2022

Posts: 3

Reposting question about training months. Have a bid in, the mock results say I'll get the award and has projected training for October, while most of the other awards for that category are in September. I did the 'convert after junior' to try and delay it - I have plans the last week of Sept I'd like to make. Question is - how accurate are the projected training months? If it says October, is that likely to stick or is it anyone's guess?

07-21-2023, 05:27 PM

#3852

Rinaldi

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jan 2020

Position: 330B

Posts: 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

fair enough. Definitely the 737/320 tend to be going more senior. Along with WBB, 717 and ER seem to be outliers. 717 makes sense, ER less so.

ER makes sense. The bottom trips in the ER category are horrible.

07-21-2023, 08:14 PM

#3853

higney85

Property of Scheduling

Joined APC: Sep 2006

Position: Bus driver

Posts: 2,573

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiscoWisco

It’s a mock. Many will change bids, some will keep percentage bids, but if you NEED something off, don’t bid into a known conflict. You can do convert after junior all day but on a short term bid, you will likely train in the window. Yea, it’s not ideal, but I it’s the deal.

The situation took plenty of wrestling for a 365 where I was the most senior guy using CAJ in the bid to have it done. Still trained/converted before the window posted. Finally worked out for posted vacation, but was a good amount of effort up to the CPO level to get my bid honored.

Pilots seem to want the short bids, myself somewhat included, but the other side of the coin is that you WILL train and convert in the allotted timeframe. Just bid knowing that fact. Starting Jan 1 (want to say that, but check, implmentation allows up to 6 days that can be blocked from training (check that too). Just not there yet with this bid.

BWYWWWYB.

07-22-2023, 02:24 AM

#3854

321pilot

Line Holder

Joined APC: Jan 2008

Position: DAL DTW717A

Posts: 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by higney85

Plan 60%. Hold a APD or IVD option as a backup.

I bid to work the 4th… spent the whole week prior on a lake so it was on purpose, but did NOT get my first few choices. Turkey day and Christmas will still need seniority to be off. Maybe I’ll be wrong on that but I’ll put the first round on those dates mattering to many if wrong. Some may want to work it for the pay and a release that works, but DO NOT take a 4th of July on a Tuesday as a barometer of seniority. Personally, I’m not working thanksgiving, Xmas, or Easter by choice. Now-; Super Bowl, New Year’s Eve, New Year’s Day…. I have young kids who have no ability to stay up for that and I’ll gladly work it for extra pay, and bid trips that work accordingly. Football isn’t our jam and it’s already past my bedtime now. Somehow kids can go to bed whenever and still wake with the sun… for an extra 5:15 a day, I think it’ll take some seniority to hold a trip over those days that don’t have an impact on the family. The holiday pay list in a bit interesting in that Easter and Labor Day don’t get a nod.

One data point: I'm looking at DTW350B. I would be right around 60%, and looking back to last December I was right at the cutoff for Christmas off.