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Old 07-07-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JetPilotDaddy
Agreed. He gave no indication besides they'll be working in tandem with training for sim availability.

My question is, could this be an indication for future indoc classes to know what their drop could be? For arguments sake if MSP320B had unbid openings last month but they didn't post any this month. Can they still offer those positions in August to newhires or only the most recent unbid openings?
Until the subsequent AE award is posted, the previous unbid vacancies “control”. But yes, they absolutely could. There is no reference in the PWA that they must offer unbid vacancies to NH’s, just that they must first offer a vacancy to a pilot on the SL. Each AE resets the available positions.
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Old 07-07-2023, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JetPilotDaddy
Agreed. He gave no indication besides they'll be working in tandem with training for sim availability.

My question is, could this be an indication for future indoc classes to know what their drop could be? For arguments sake if MSP320B had unbid openings last month but they didn't post any this month. Can they still offer those positions in August to newhires or only the most recent unbid openings?
Nope. Per the PWA, the only positions that can be offered have to be leftover from the last AE.
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Old 07-07-2023, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
Nope. Per the PWA, the only positions that can be offered have to be leftover from the last AE.
How does one tell what positions went unfilled? Sorry, I'm a newbie looking at the AE awards and don't see it clearly.
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Old 07-07-2023, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
How does one tell what positions went unfilled? Sorry, I'm a newbie looking at the AE awards and don't see it clearly.
You can do the math, which is a little painstaking. Sometimes Crew Resources posts the data on Skyhub, or responds to an email asking. Just keep in mind it’s the net awards that determine the openings, not just the fact they award the number they posted (IOW, if they post 20 vacancies, award 10, but 5 people also bid out, there are still 15 vacancies available for NH’s.)
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Old 07-07-2023, 03:48 PM
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How does one tell what positions went unfilled? Sorry, I'm a newbie looking at the AE awards and don't see it clearly.
I use widgetseniority it’s best tool I can find for this info
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Old 07-07-2023, 04:31 PM
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So let’s say you got a base transfer on the last AE they didn’t require training, convert in 2 months. Then one month later they do another AE you take a WB B slot you were wanting with training many months out . Would they delete the first award?
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Old 07-07-2023, 05:46 PM
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So let’s say you got a base transfer on the last AE they didn’t require training, convert in 2 months. Then one month later they do another AE you take a WB B slot you were wanting with training many months out . Would they delete the first award?
PWA 23.E.17 only talks about being trained on the most recent AE award - nothing about cancelling the former award.

So I would presume that, so long as you don't train for the second award before the first award's conversion window closes, you would change bases (briefly).
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Old 07-07-2023, 06:33 PM
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Say what?? What category? I couldn’t touch summer vacation ATL 73N A and I was bidding 70%.
NYC 320 Captain.

Currently 87%. Was 90+ during vacation bidding. And it wasn't a carried in one from my old fleet. Been on the 320 for close to 2 years now.
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Old 07-07-2023, 06:42 PM
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NYC 320 Captain.

Currently 87%. Was 90+ during vacation bidding. And it wasn't a carried in one from my old fleet. Been on the 320 for close to 2 years now.
That does not sound right. I am similar seniority (almost exact) and couldn’t touch a summer vacation. Not that I don’t believe you but there must have been a glitch in the matrix because that doesn’t pass the smell test of honoring seniority. I guess weird things happen in NYC.
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Old 07-07-2023, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JetPilotDaddy
Agreed. He gave no indication besides they'll be working in tandem with training for sim availability.

My question is, could this be an indication for future indoc classes to know what their drop could be? For arguments sake if MSP320B had unbid openings last month but they didn't post any this month. Can they still offer those positions in August to newhires or only the most recent unbid openings?
I think with monthly AE's you are going to see almost entirely NYC in most drops, plus DTW 717. All of the more desirable locations will be snapped up by recent new hires transferring out of NYC, leaving a continuous void each time for the next AE. If there is anything offered in a drop in say ATL, MSP, or anything west coast it will be in very small numbers and go very senior.
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