Prepare yourselves… 2023 AEs
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We all knew it was coming. You have the highest amount of retirements tied with a 1800ish VEOP. This is likely the new norm for the industry unless age 67 passes. Then pause a couple years and this is still the new norm. The days of 2000-2010 are gone.
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So 1 year captains indefinitely? What a time to be a newhire!
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I know you know this but I’ll say it anyways… it’ll be 5 years for a new hire today to hold CA and it’ll be 8-10 years to hold widebody FO. Those who are 7,000 - 12,000 currently are consider “golden era” and those 12,000+ will be “hired at a good time but could be better.” Basically 2014-2020 vs 2021 and beyond.
Look, I’m not trying to be negative. It’s 99% what you make of it! Being a NB FO isn’t a bad life at all, especially making $200+ an hour. All I’m saying is the if you are 12,000+ and took the upgrade or WBB when you had the chance, that was an incredible move. If you didn’t take the move (seat lock, etc) then you may have missed out for a bit.
My prediction is 10,000 and senior will get what they bid sometime this year. 10,000-12,000 will require some luck. And 12,000 and beyond can count on staying put for a bit!
Look, I’m not trying to be negative. It’s 99% what you make of it! Being a NB FO isn’t a bad life at all, especially making $200+ an hour. All I’m saying is the if you are 12,000+ and took the upgrade or WBB when you had the chance, that was an incredible move. If you didn’t take the move (seat lock, etc) then you may have missed out for a bit.
My prediction is 10,000 and senior will get what they bid sometime this year. 10,000-12,000 will require some luck. And 12,000 and beyond can count on staying put for a bit!
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Not gonna lie, as a first year I’m really hoping (and praying) for a quick upgrade in the NB fleet however I realize times be a changing, and shall change with the times as needed. Blessed that I’m here and with 22 (maybe 24) years to go the big guy upstairs will see it where I’m needed.
Can still hope though 🤪. In my very inexperienced opinion, NB A could hold junior-ish as more and more go to WB B where the cushy flying and QOL is. How junior is junior-ish, don’t know but I’m hoping around 1-1.5 years. Good luck everyone ending up where you want. Cheers 🥃
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Can still hope though 🤪. In my very inexperienced opinion, NB A could hold junior-ish as more and more go to WB B where the cushy flying and QOL is. How junior is junior-ish, don’t know but I’m hoping around 1-1.5 years. Good luck everyone ending up where you want. Cheers 🥃
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