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Old 06-28-2023, 12:42 PM
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So when’s the next AE coming out? Any guesses on a SLC 330 base?
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by konabear
So when’s the next AE coming out? Any guesses on a SLC 330 base?
mid July for the next AE.
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Old 06-28-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
Yes, things will be more senior if they continue with smaller bids. As has been stated before though, we have a lot of WB slots to fill in the next year, so there will still be lots of movement.
We have 92 350/330s currently. We have 2,627 pilots to fly those planes. That’s 28.5 pilots per plane.
Next year we will be getting another 16 of these planes. That means we need another 456 pilots to cover those. When you factor in retirements, my guess is we’ll need at least 150 more positions putting it to 600 pilots (roughly 40% CAs / 60% FOs).

This AE we had a total of 60 330/350 openings. That’s only 10% of what we will need for 2024. I’m confident that moving forward these results will trend more junior. This was just a weird AE.
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Old 06-28-2023, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
This was just a weird AE.
Next one is going to look weird too then.
How many of these WB A area codes use their get-out-of-training-free card when they didn’t get their bypass? Maybe the next bid doubles WB A positions to cover this bid’s bypass-fishers and next bid’s too.
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Old 06-28-2023, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Next one is going to look weird too then.
How many of these WB A area codes use their get-out-of-training-free card when they didn’t get their bypass? Maybe the next bid doubles WB A positions to cover this bid’s bypass-fishers and next bid’s too.
I know at least one unsuccessful fisherman who plans on training for the pay raise.
Minimal bypass awards discourages fishing for bypass. You get what you reward.
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Old 06-28-2023, 02:59 PM
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It's important to note too that when you withdraw from an award you are locked for another 24 months, which for many fishers may take them to retirement age. So if you're 63+ you only get one shot to fish for the bypass.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Next one is going to look weird too then.
How many of these WB A area codes use their get-out-of-training-free card when they didn’t get their bypass? Maybe the next bid doubles WB A positions to cover this bid’s bypass-fishers and next bid’s too.
will be interesting to see how many withdraw instead of going to training.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
We have 92 350/330s currently. We have 2,627 pilots to fly those planes. That’s 28.5 pilots per plane.
Next year we will be getting another 16 of these planes. That means we need another 456 pilots to cover those. When you factor in retirements, my guess is we’ll need at least 150 more positions putting it to 600 pilots (roughly 40% CAs / 60% FOs).

This AE we had a total of 60 330/350 openings. That’s only 10% of what we will need for 2024. I’m confident that moving forward these results will trend more junior. This was just a weird AE.
But, more importantly, did you go for your move or can we expect a few more weeks of FMF AE giddiness?
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
But, more importantly, did you go for your move or can we expect a few more weeks of FMF AE giddiness?
I wasn’t even close lol. So FLEXY unfortunately is here to stay for a bit longer
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
We have 92 350/330s currently. We have 2,627 pilots to fly those planes. That’s 28.5 pilots per plane.
Next year we will be getting another 16 of these planes. That means we need another 456 pilots to cover those. When you factor in retirements, my guess is we’ll need at least 150 more positions putting it to 600 pilots (roughly 40% CAs / 60% FOs).

This AE we had a total of 60 330/350 openings. That’s only 10% of what we will need for 2024. I’m confident that moving forward these results will trend more junior. This was just a weird AE.
Very sensible post. People are freaking out about WB movement on a bud that had 14 widebody B openings, 8 of which were on the LAX350. Relax people, it wasn’t even a widebody bid.
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