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Old 06-21-2023, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
What is your zenith?

Is it a money thing or a destination thing or a plane thing?

For those that say "enough is enough", even if you are delayed, you wouldn't have to work very long(coupla/few months) to be where your zenith would have taken you money wise. Especially with pay banding.(Which BTW helps the newer pilots much more than the more senior pilots).(Any college educated pilot could understand and acknowledge this as someone previously said)
My hypothetical “zenith” would be whatever my seniority number would be on my 65th birthday if the rules stay status quo. With said seniority number comes both QOL and perhaps better pay (depending on what seniority number can allow me to bid).

If 67 happens, my zenith now happens two years later.

Any college educated pilot can do simple math.
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Old 06-21-2023, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
Dont pretend you wouldn’t be saying the same thing if you were in their shoes. Come on man. Everyone wants to do what is best for them.

And not arguing for Age 67, just don’t throw stones.
It would be fine if they admitted it, but it’s always something made up about “safety” or “age discrimination”, it’s never “I want to change the rules that have been benefitting me the last 20 years at the exact time that it would be beneficial for me and detrimental to everyone below me.”
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
It would be fine if they admitted it, but it’s always something made up about “safety” or “age discrimination”, it’s never “I want to change the rules that have been benefitting me the last 20 years at the exact time that it would be beneficial for me and detrimental to everyone below me.”
Much like those opposing say “it’s about safety” when really it’s about their personal perceived lack of movement. The best is “everyone will be on disability”, when, if true, would be as good as retired for their movement.
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:49 PM
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I hesitate to do this here, but the thread is already off the rails and it's where the relevant discussion is. Has anyone else noticed that the person who's been doing drive bys against ALPA and age 65 on the Facebook group the last few days is the longest tenured pilot at the company? They've been here 41 years, and have likely been able to hold a "true" widebody Captain spot for the majority of their career.
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by boog123
Much like those opposing say “it’s about safety” when really it’s about their personal perceived lack of movement. The best is “everyone will be on disability”, when, if true, would be as good as retired for their movement.
Does the company backfill seats when a pilot goes on LTD?
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Does the company backfill seats when a pilot goes on LTD?
Yes.

Filler.
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Does the company backfill seats when a pilot goes on LTD?
No for every 5 pilots that go on LTD the company pulls a plane out of service and just parks it until said pilots retire or return from disability. Sarcasm……
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Does the company backfill seats when a pilot goes on LTD?
One would think. The facts are there wasn’t a huge increase in LTD when the age changed from 60 to 65, opposite of what many campaigned. I don’t care either way but “selfish” goes both ways on the issue.
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Well, that was unintelligible. Let's start with the term stovepipe, which I caveated in my explanation. Do you know what that means.?

With that as a basis, please try again.

BTW, nowhere did I say or allude that it wasn't the best for the groups as a whole. But it was bestest for the most junior pilots and insignificant for the senior pilots(as a general rule, not as as a specific case by case basis due to one's choices)

Can you limit your discussion to just the one I was trying to discuss that you said was basically ridiculous and patently false(or something like that)?
LOL.

You tell Ted to get a better education and then you can’t understand what he said. Funny.
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:44 PM
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Ok, back on topic with the AE:

According to the weekly update, CR is going to take a snapshot later this week and post a sample award. That ought to stir the pot a bit…
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